On 5/27/2011 5:37 PM, Niels Mayer wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Arjan van de Ven<[email protected]>  wrote:
I'm pretty sure the answer is that the concept of "top application" outright
does not exist.
Assuming we're talking the  Window System "X" and its standards, then
yes it does exist, and has existed for a long time -- in a
standard-bearing form since OSF/Motif and CDE (e.g.
XmDIALOG_SYSTEM_MODAL ).

Freedesktop.org has updated the original architecture. However, it
certainly is a concept that exists in X windows. (how else would
"always keep window on top" be implemented in many desktops, or tool
panels, etc).

It is concerning to me, after the attending the recent conference,
that MeeGo may be adding nonstandard extensions and functionality to
the window manager (for video). So it would be nice to understand the
official MeeGo position on working within accepted norms of X Windows
and X Window Manager Protocols. And if they're being extended, that
"upstream" agrees with the  wisdom of the extensions. Having worked
with X window managers since the very beginning, (prior having worked
on X10 which didn't have the concept of a separate window manager),
this is not the sort of thing that should be extended or overloaded in
a cavalier fashion, even for a new paradigm like "Tablet."


I think the short answer is that the concept does not make sense in the UI design, so the hint is ignored.

the longer answer is that with the rapid move to Wayland... does it even matter what Motif did? That whole layer
is about to be thrown out.....

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