Terry,
I was getting a bit paranoid about the fact that my springs rattled around
on the struts when the suspension is at full extension. This is normally not
a problem, but I am going to go through the engineering saga soon and I just
know that if the springs are spotted moving around on the struts when the
car is up on the hoist, that questions will be asked - or more likely they
will say "Go away you silly man, and come back when you've done it
properly".
Anyway, by using the 240K tops (with slightly higher springs) the car stays
at the same ride height, but the springs are a bit longer, so they don't
move on the strut anymore. (I am just using cut down 200B sprigs with the
ends re-set so they seat properly)
'later
PL
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry & Heather
Sent: Monday, 12 June 2000 23:36
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Subject: RE: 240K/200B strut tops
Thanks Pete,
To stop the minor spring rattle you get with 200B struts and eg 1600 Euro
springs such as I use, I've used the common solution of tie downs through
the convenient holes in the spring perch which solves the problem. The
rattle either was overlooked by the engineer when I had the brakes inspected
or they thought it wasn't a problem. I only noticed it after everything
settled down and it was only apparent at very low speed such as entering the
driveway. I then fitted the tie downs when I worked out what the noise was
and I've never heard the rattle again since.
I'm trying to get the brain around why the 240K strut tops would eliminate
spring rattle with our combination without the need for tie downs. I've
drawn out the two systems and the only apparent difference is that the
suspension height would decrease by the difference in the height of the
strut tops. The distance between the spring perch and the insulator would
appear to be constant but maybe there's something I'm missing here. Anything
to do with the fact that the car will have a minor nose down attitude with
the shorter insulators.
regards
Terry
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Liebig
Sent: Monday, 12 June 2000 7:14 PM
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Subject: RE: 240K/200B strut tops
Terry,
I've got 200B struts in mine with the 240K tops. They fit up fine, but as
Malcolm says, you need to take the 3 mounting holes out a tad (there's
bugger all in it). Not sure on 180B struts.
PL
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Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2000 18:53
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Subject: RE: 240K/200B strut tops
I've always used 1600 insulators with strut changes. Do we have the problem
that Malcolm has told us about with the Aussie 240K (C110) struts as a lot
of ppl have them in their 1600. Anyone out there care to inform me the pros
& cons of fitting 240K struts here. Also what about the easier to get these
days C210 Skyline struts, which insulators can we use, 1600 ones fit Ok, but
a few mm lower in the front would be good, especially if you get spring
rattle which is annoying.
Terry
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Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2000 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 240K/200B strut tops
I took the 810SSS 180B front legs out and put in C110 240KGT legs.
The bolt patteren on the 240K is bigger than 510,610,710,810.
Only had to file out about 2.5mm on each hole on the body.
Dont mix up between 180K and 240K they are different.
180K will bolt straight in 240K doesn't.
Malcolm
Pete & Kath Liebig wrote:
>
> Zac,
>
> Yep. Spot on. The 240K tops seat the spring closer to the top face.
>
> You would have to choose the page in my notes that has got brake fluid
spilt
> all over it! From what I can read the difference was 16.5mm - which sounds
> about right. This was the difference between the 200B struts I had on my
car
> ('81 I think) and some 240K tops I found. Wether it holds true for all
> 200B/240K struts I cannot say, but all the 200B strut tops I have ever
seen
> have been the same. This was enough to stop my springs from rattling
around
> on full extension, so made me very happy.
>
> 'later
> PL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Zac Campbell
> Sent: Friday, 9 June 2000 23:30
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: 240K
>
> People - Pete Liebig pointed out to me a few weeks ago that some (or all,
> I'm not sure) 240K strut tops are actually a ceratin amount 'shorter' than
> 1600, 180B and 200B strut tops. So, provided the spring length is the
same,
> you get lowered ride height without losing any spring travel.
> Pete can you enlighten us on the number side of this one?
>
> zac
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Halpin
> Sent: Saturday, 10 June 2000 1:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 240K
>
> thanks trevor, makes me feel a bit better about the conversion - but I
> stripped the 240K so long ago that I can't remember what year it was, I
know
> it was a 4-door, auto - oh and it was poo brown too!! I thought the strut
> length would be longer - but hey - I'm not at all complaining if my car
goes
> down and further 1/2 "!!
>
> chris
>
> >From: "Pooley, Trevor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: 240K
> >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:45:22 +0930
> >
> >Chris,
> >
> >I did this job 6 months ago. I used 1974 240K GL complete front stuts.
Took
> >them off the 240K and stuck them in the 1600. I did not change springs or
> >stuff around by swapping them side to side. No probs and was happy with
> >their performance. Ride hight was about the same maybe .5 to 1 inch lower
> >(didn't measure).
> >
> >Trev
> >
> >
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >Topic: 240K install
> >==============
> >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:26:17 +0950
> >From: "Derek Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >----------------------------------------
> >Chris,
> >
> >1) 240k Booster might not fit, depending on model. If you have a choice,
> >240K
> >for my money. I could only fit a 180B unit.
> >2) If the 240K struts have a similar spindle-to-spring-seat height to the
> >1600
> >ones, use the 1600 springs to keep your ride characteristics the same.
> >Should
> >be same diameter (?).
> >3) I didn't have to drill any holes to fit the booster, just re-bent the
> >lines
> >a tad.
> >4) Haven't done the swap myself, maybe someone who has knows the 'other'
> >tricks
> >involved.
> >5) Coopers Pale Ale gets my vote....
> >
> >DF
> >
> > >I've had a 240K front end sitting in my garage since before I got my
> >dime,
> >
> > >and decided the other day that my stock brakes just aren't doing the
> > >necessary job (stopping distances of 500 odd metres in the dry just
don't
> >
> > >satisfy me - and are even verging on dangerous), so these holidays, I'm
> > >going to sacrafice a couple of epesodes of 'Days of Our Lives' and make
> >an
> >
> > >attempt to install the bloody things. I was just wondering if you
> > >knowledge-able people could 'knowledge me up' a bit on a few unclear
> > >thingumeys. Firstly, I have 240K and 180B brake boosters, which one
> >should
> >
> > >I be using? Secondly, can I replace the 240K springs with p510
springs,
> >or
> >
> > >cut the 240K's so the struts are the right height for the car (I'm
trying
> >to
> >
> > >do this conversion really cheaply for now, and then upgrade the springs
> > >later). Thirdly do I have to modify (drill through) the firewall to
> >install
> >
> > >the booster? (These questions must sound really basic and dumb, well
> >it's
> >
> > >probably because they are, but my knowledge of the struts is comparable
> >to
> >a
> > >fish's knowledge of human eyebrows (small)). Fourthly is there
anything
> > >else I should know during the conversion and fifthly, which beer do you
> > >recomment that I drink after the conversion is complete?
> > >
> > >Thanks for all the help guys/girls, I'm sure it will be very
> >useful....chris
> >
> > >Halpin - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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