Thanks Mick,
It looks like we've narrowed down a suitable master cylinder for 4 spots/R31
to either a 13/16" or 7/8" as your 3/4" was a bit light and Pete's 15/16" is
a bit heavy.
regards
Terry
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 14 July 2000 9:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
Terry
Happy to compare notes any time..
I had the 180b master cyl with the booster...
I could never get the rears to work well enough to balance out the whole
deal.
Now i have brake bias and dunnydore rears and the difference is staggering -
but i still haven't solved the handbrake puzzle.
Pete what sort of front 4 spots are u running?
mine are import pathfinder on Mazda venteds
The blue beast had too much of a liking for the back of 4wd's.. after u saw
it i got back from europe and we welded another front on to it and u
wouldn't read about it - it went into the back of a feroza.... Its now in
Datto heaven resting peacefully i hope.. Of course i kept all the good bits
and pieces and thats what I'm installing into the yellow beast.. I must get
some pics up of this new one as its a very trick looking car - big flares
and stuff - i guess only a SOB could get away with driving it as it is very
distinctive...
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 12:15 AM
Subject: RE: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
> Mick,
> You and Pete Liebig should compare notes on the 4 spot/R31 as he has a
> similar balance problem that has unfolded in his SR/510.
>
> Mick, can you recall was master cylinder and size you used when you had
the
> R31's in the rear that wouldn't balance to your liking. BTW What happened
to
> the blue beast? Is it in 510 heaven?
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mick Ralph
> Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2000 10:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
>
>
> Thats exactly the set up i had on my previous car. the only way i could
> make it work for motorkhanas was to fit a length of pipe over the handle
to
> exert greater leverage. The reason i am using the dunnydore stuff on the
> back is that I could never get a good balance with the 4 spot/r31 set up..
> the fronts would always overpower the rears.. now i have this new setup
> including the tilton bias adjuster and it is sweet as..
> how the hell am i gonna solve this (lack of) handbrake dilemma. I need a
> good handbrake to hold the car on the boat ramp while launching and
> retrieving...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
>
>
> > Mick,
> > For dirt turns with the R31 fit a 120Y floor mounted lever. Someone on
the
> > list said they have done this so it's in the archives. BTW Mick your
> dunny
> > brakes had better be working damn good and well balanced up to outbrake
my
> > 200B/R31's Unless you can stop quicker than a soobie rex from 160k's
> you'll
> > lose. Now there's a challenge thrown out for my next GC trip (:-
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mick Ralph
> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2000 9:57 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
> >
> >
> > sorry for the delay julian
> > my email server has been giving me a hard time lately
> > I have used both the r31 rear calipers and the holden dunnydore set up
on
> > vented discs
> > There is no question IMHO that the commodore set up works more
efficiently
> > but there is no way u can run a legal handbrake Transport dept will not
> > approve a hydraulic handbrake (something about fluid leaking)
> > The r31 set up is really easy to acquire (quite cheap from the wreckers)
> and
> > set up.. u could do it in your back yard with no really special tools
> > (although a die grinder is very useful for enlarging the centre hole of
> the
> > disc).. Shortening the primary handbrake cable is required to mate up to
> the
> > rear cables but u end up with a fairly decent handbrake which is totally
> > cable operated ie legal...however it doesn't really cut the mustard if u
> > want to use the handbrake for turning the car as in motorkhanas...
> > i don't know what the answer is to improve this but i have tried a
couple
> of
> > cars with the r31 calipers and the handbrake is really only a park brake
> > not a manoeuvring device
> > Has anyone else got this sussed out?
> > i thought about lengthening the lever under the car to improve the bite
> but
> > i have never got around to it
> > cheers
> > Mick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard Clough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
> >
> >
> > > A hydraulic handbrake can be added to any car. It is simply another
> > master
> > > cylinder in "series" the rear brakeline. By operating this cylinder
> with
> > a
> > > hand lever you can lock up the rears only.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, 10 July 2000 15:02 PM
> > > Subject: Hydraulic Handbrakes? (Was Re: Nissan Brake bias adjuster)
> > >
> > >
> > > > How do you convert your car to hydraulic handbrake? Do you need to
> > > purchase an
> > > > off the shelf kit or can you maufacture something yourself?
> > > >
> > > > Why is the R31 setup good?
> > > >
> > > > - Julian
> > > >
> > > > Mick Ralph wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > correct
> > > > > thats why the r31 setup is the right one for 510
> > > > > hydraulic and cable at the same time = totally legal
> > > > >
> > > > > From: c_peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: Bruce Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; membersozdat
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 10:52 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Nissan Brake bias adjuster
> > > > >
> > > > > > yes i think your right. and you can only have a hydrolic hand
> brake
> > if
> > > you
> > > > > > have cable on installed as well
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >===== Original Message From Bruce Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> =====
> > > > > > >Richard, Et Al.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The problem is, I think it is not legal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I may be wrong here, but I was led to believe that you
> > > > > > >cant have a driver adjustable bias valve on a road
> > > > > > >registered car, race cars are fine. Any comments
> > > > > > >anyone ???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Bruce
> > > > > > >
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