Terry that is wot I am doing.
Fixing up all the crap and while I am tossing up the pro's and cons off doing my
transplants.
Catch ya.
Rick White.
--- "Brad HALLETT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>With a budget of $3000, I reckon he woul be better off building a decent
>L20B. It is much better to d a good job on an NA engine than a half baked
>job on a turbo engine
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terry & Heather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:06 AM
>Subject: RE: Terry what engine in my 1600?
>
>
>> Rick,
>> I wasn't trying to scare Bryan rather to make inform him of what it really
>> costs to do the full monty properly and more importantly legally. I'd hate
>> for someone to outlay big $ to drop a turbo into a stocker and then to be
>> confronted with the dilemma of getting is regoed. There is some good info
>on
>> that list on what other modifications cost and I recommend that if you're
>> going to do a stocker up then start with the safety and comfort items
>first
>> and then do the driveline last.
>>
>> terry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick White
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2000 12:18 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: Terry what engine in my 1600?
>>
>>
>> Terry are you trying to scare the poor boy?
>> Hius budjet was $3000.00 complete not $10.000.
>> Ohh well you get that hea.
>> It wasgood to see a rundown on the costs as I was kinda interested in them
>> but DAMMMMM!
>> Till nextt time happy DATTO Motoring.
>>
>> --- "Terry & Heather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >Part: 1
>> ><pre>Bryan,
>> >
>> >I have attached an email that gives you a rough idea on the cost for a
>> turbo
>> >transplant in a 1600.
>> >
>> >regards
>> >
>> >Terry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryan Walker
>> >Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2000 7:07 AM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: what engine in my 1600?
>> >
>> >
>> >I have a problem and that is I don't know what engine to put into my
>1600.
>> >I have owned a 1600 for about a year and haven't had the cash to do
>> anything
>> >to my bog stock 1600, still with a L16 and 4-speed gearbox. However, now
>> >I
>> >have the funds! So, which engine and who can help?Budget of around $3000
>> >give or take.
>> >
>> >a)Which EFI engine would be a wise replacement?
>> >b)How much does a Z18 turbo cost to buy and fit?
>> >c)What gearbox to fit and about what it will cost?
>> >d)Who in W.A. can do the whole project for me? Including chasing down
>the
>> >engine, fitting and if needed any other mods.
>> >
>> >In other words I need a performance workshop in Perth that I can simply
>> >go
>> >to with my datto and say get me moving faster than a streetsweeper.
>> >I have a small aim and that is to make the datto 0-100km in under 9 secs.
>> >
>> >Also I have another query. How much does a paint job cost? as my car is
>> >mustard in colour and any other colour would do. Anybody know who in
>W.A.
>> >to recommend?
>> >
>> >I know these are some pretty rough questions but I love the 1600 and know
>> >absolutely nothing about cars except turbos are great to drive and a
>turbo
>> >in a 1600 must be pretty sweet.
>> >Thanks if you can help.
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>> Part: 2
>> >From : "Terry & Heather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >To : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >Date : Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:10:21 +1000
>> >
>> >Subject : Turbo Conversion costs for a 510
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><P><FONT color=#ff6600>Re-posted as requested on 17/5/2000</FONT>
>> <BR>terry,
>> ><BR>could you please dig up that costing breakdown bc I reckon there
>would
>> be a
>> >few of us out there interested <BR>thanks <BR>andrew
>> ><P>Terry & Heather wrote:
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">
>> > <P><SPAN class=700511109-30062000>I have gathered some information over
>a
>> > period of time that details what it costs to build a street legal
>> 510
>> > with one of the popular turbo engines. </SPAN>Let's say we have a bog
>> stock
>> > straight bodied road regd. 510 and are looking at converting it with an
>> > FJ20DET.<SPAN class=700511109-30062000> I picked the FJ simply because
>it
>> is
>> > the only engine I have installed myself from go to
>whoa.</SPAN>
>> > <P><SPAN class=700511109-30062000>Note. A</SPAN><SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>ny Nissan Turbo</SPAN> would be a fairly
>> similar
>> > outlay<SPAN class=700511109-30062000> engineering wise, you would need
>to
>> > adjust the purchase price of the particular engine.</SPAN>
>> > <P><SPAN class=700511109-30062000></SPAN> Here is a run down if
>you
>> and
>> > your mates do most of the work using some 2nd hand parts (wreckers
>> prices,
>> > U<SPAN class=700511109-30062000>-</SPAN>Pulls <SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>tend to be </SPAN>cheaper<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000> on some things</SPAN>) and buying some fairly
>> mid
>> > range quality bits that this sort of conversion deserves and most
>> engineers
>> > require for "that" important piece of paper.
>> > <P>FJ20DET non intercooled complete with standard computer & 5
>speed
>> box
>> > <FONT color=#ff0000>$2<SPAN
>class=700511109-30062000>3</SPAN>00</FONT> -
>> <FONT
>> > color=#3333ff>$2600</FONT> <BR>Upgrade to standard factory intercooled
>> <FONT
>> > color=#3333ff>$200</FONT> - $300 <BR>Fitting kit (exchange tailshaft
>> &
>> > xmember) <FONT color=#009900>$700</FONT>; add $200 for outright or DIY
>> ~$200
>> > <BR>N13 Pulsar alloy radiator 2nd hand <FONT
>color=#ff0000>$100</FONT> -
>> <FONT
>> > color=#3333ff>$125</FONT>, new $250 - $300
>> > <P>Front Brake Upgrade to solid<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000> </SPAN>e.g. 200B: <BR>
>> 2nd
>> > hand struts complete <FONT color=#cc0000>$100</FONT> - <FONT
>> > color=#0000ff>$200 <BR> </FONT>Lowered springs &
>GT
>> gas
>> > inserts and wheel alignment <FONT color=#ff0000>$300</FONT> - <FONT
>> > color=#3333ff>$800</FONT> (> quality) <BR> Machine
>> discs
>> > & new pads (standard) <FONT
>color=#cc0000>$100</FONT> <BR><SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000> Upgrade to 180B SSS Tokico
>or
>> > Nabco dual 3/4" master cylinder and Bendix booster <FONT
>> color=#ff0000>$100
>> > </FONT>- <FONT color=#0000ff>$150</FONT></SPAN><BR><FONT
>> > color=#0000ff> </FONT><BR><SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>Optional Front Brake </SPAN>Upgrade to
>> > vented <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>:<BR>
>> > </SPAN>(i.e. for NSW using Verada rotors & VL Commodore callipers,
>> need 74
>> > mm late 180B struts) <FONT color=#3333ff>$500</FONT> <BR></P>
>> > <P>Exhaust: <BR> factory turbo exhaust flange &
>> down
>> > pipe <FONT color=#00cc00>$50</FONT> <BR> 3" average
>> quality
>> > to xmember & 2.5" tailpipe, cat convertor & turbo muffler <FONT
>> > color=#cc0000>$500</FONT> - <FONT color=#3333ff>$1000</FONT> (>
>> quality)
>> > </P>
>> > <P>Rear axle: <BR> R180 open differential & half
>> shafts
>> > <FONT color=#009900>$200</FONT> e.g. C210 Skyline 3.9:1
>> > <P>Electrics: <BR> Relocate battery to boot in
>approved
>> > manner (fixed & vented box if standard type open vent battery
>> > used) with single cable to engine bay <FONT
>> color=#009900>$130</FONT>
>> > <BR> Miscellaneous relays and wiring, connectors etc.
>> <FONT
>> > color=#009900>$200</FONT>
>> > <P>Fuel System: <BR> Surge tank & HP Pump <FONT
>> > color=#cc0000>$100</FONT> - <FONT color=#000000>$250</FONT> (bit of a
>> range
>> > here, <FONT color=#cc0000>Gazelle pump in tank is cheap &
>> > effective</FONT>, 2nd hand HP Bosch (VL) & separate surge tank
>> ~$100
>> > & $120 respectively, complete combined unit<FONT color=#3333ff>
>> > ~$200</FONT>) <BR><SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000> </SPAN>LP pump, relay
>> &
>> > HP fuel lines <FONT color=#cc0000>$75</FONT> - <FONT
>> color=#3333ff>$100</FONT>
>> >
>> > <P>Wheels & Tyres: <BR> 4 x 2nd hand basic
>5.5"x14"
>> > Skyline steel rims <FONT color=#009900>$50</FONT>
><BR>
>> 4 x
>> > 2nd hand 185/<SPAN class=700511109-30062000>65</SPAN> or 195/<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>6</SPAN>0 < 1/2 worn <FONT
>> > color=#cc0000>$100</FONT> - <FONT color=#3333ff>$250</FONT>+
>> (quality
>> > imports are around $60 per tyre)
>> > <P>Engineering: <BR> Big range here and varies by
>State
>> a
>> > lot, min is ~$500 to $1200+ (thieves), ballpark is ~<FONT
>> > color=#009900>$750</FONT>
>> > <P>Sundry Items: <BR> Accelerator cable, remote brake
>> bits,
>> > hoses, plugs, filters, oil etc. etc. ~<FONT color=#00cc00>$300</FONT>
>> > <P>The cost for "red <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>(<FONT
>> > color=#ff0000>$3775</FONT>) </SPAN>+ common green" <SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>(<FONT color=#008000>$2380</FONT>)
>> </SPAN>highlighted
>> > items: $6<SPAN class=700511109-30062000>1</SPAN>55 <BR>The cost
>for
>> > "blue <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>(<FONT
>> color=#0000ff>$6125</FONT>)
>> > </SPAN>+ common green" <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>(<FONT
>> > color=#008000>$2380</FONT>) </SPAN>highlighted items: $<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>8505</SPAN></P>
>> > <P><SPAN class=700511109-30062000></SPAN>What have I missed: $??? </P>
>> > <P>Extras: (not an exhaustive list, just some popular upgrades)
><BR>Mags
>> &
>> > tyres $1300 <BR>Aftermarket ECU ~$1300 (Wolf 3D) <BR>Lights, CD,
>> > Amp <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>~</SPAN>$1000 <BR>Seats &
>> > Interior <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>~</SPAN>$500+ (<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>fairly </SPAN>basic seats) <BR>Respray $<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>1</SPAN>,<SPAN
>> > class=700511109-30062000>2</SPAN>00 <SPAN
>class=700511109-30062000>-
>> > $5000+</SPAN><BR>Rear discs (R31) ~$300 <BR>Nolathane bushes
>~$300
>> > <BR>Tinted glass 3M <SPAN class=700511109-30062000>~</SPAN>$250
>> <BR>LSD
>> > ~$1200 <BR>Dyno time: ~$60 /hr <BR>Adjustable front end (castor rods
>> &
>> > camber plates) ~$500
>> > <P>That 'll do for starters, I think any prospective 510 Turbo
>convertors
>> will
>> > get a bit of an idea from this and you can see why the L series is
>still
>> very
>> > popular and will more than likely always continue to be so and there's
>> nothing
>> > wrong with that (IMHO).
>> > <P>regards <BR>Terry</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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