Terry,
The Series 1 (Bluebird 910) live axle housing uses the H165B (8 bolt) banjo
centre. The Australian Gazelle S110 live axle housing uses an H190 (10
bolt) banjo centre same as series three (Bluebird 910) but has the same
location arms as a Stanza (PA510) and Sunny (B310). I did up a Gazelle rear
axle for a Stanza rally car a couple of months back and the wheels fits
under the arches like a dream even though wider track than stock. This
conversion allows the large "unbursto" centre to be used. In a sunny the
Gazelle rear requires small flares with most wheels or will fit bluebird
TRX rims (just).
Cheers
Feral Errol
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From: Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Live axle mods.
Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:03
RE: Live axle mods.Errol,
This post jogged my memory about why the S1 housing was no good for the
Gazelle diff conversion - aren't the number of bolts in the housing
different. I think the Z18t diff from the S10 was 3.9 or 4.1. My mate got
the imported axle from the same car that he bought the front half with the
Z18t in it. It was the first front cut conversion that I'd ever done - they
make things so easy, I was rapped. Every hose and bolt was there in it's
place - it was a pleasant change from just lugging home an engine and a box
and a clump of of wires in the back of a box trailer.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 4:22 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Live axle mods.
Errol,
Is is possible to get a LSD centre for a 8 bolt Series 1 Bluebird TRX
????
And how much are they ???
Thanks,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Errol Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 15:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Live axle mods.
Nick,
I can get you a Gazelle rear axle assembly complete, you could probably
get
one from a Datsun/Nissan wrecker in Sydney as well. The H190 LSD in a
4.875
or 5.1 ratio is harder to get, especially if you want an alloy pinion
carrier.
Cheers
Feral Errol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Live axle mods.
Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:06
Where can I find a Gazelle rear end? Are they those 180SX looking cars,
they seem pretty rare.
I still would need a LSD centre though.
Are H190 LSD centres still available
Thanks,
Nick
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From: "Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:42:47 +1000
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Live axle mods.
Nick/Errol,
I'm not sure how relevant this info is for a Stanza, but I have been
involved with a rear axle conversion on a Z18t powered Bluebird S1. The
Z18
used to snap stock S1 axles like a twig, always same side and same
place
(lhs about 4" from centre) so on some good advice we tried a Gazelle
centre
and axles with a S3 TRX housing as we wanted to retain the TRX rear
discs
that are 280mm and require 15" wheels. No more broken axles in more
than
12
months running and a very cheap and clean conversion. There was some
problem
with using the S1 housing with the Gazelle centre and likewise the
Gazelle
housing on the S1, although I think the later was a more difficult TRX
disc
conversion and I never gave the R31 a thought as a possible donor Do'h.
Another piece of useless information is that Gazelle ventilated discs
are a
dead set bolt on the S1 Bluebird as we did that while we were trying to
figure the pros & cons of doing the diff conversion.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol Smith
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2000 11:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Live axle mods.
Nick,
1. No S3 TRX's are LSD's stock.
2. I think the $2500 id a pretty reasonable price for what you have
said
but Budget racers would probably have to do it a bit differently! A
better
housing to use is the Gazelle (S110) H190 rear axle (stronger housing
and
mounts are same as Stanza! Fitted with HR31 discs/calipers this will be
easier to keep within specs and will be a shit load cheaper.
3. The toe figure is measured at the front of tyre surface on a line
marked around the tyre centre line.. The toe is measured at the front
of
the tyre tread centre as compared to the rear of the tyre tread centre
(using (580mm diam wheel tyre combination)
Cheers
Feral Errol
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From: abrahamk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Live axle mods.
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 7:59
Errol et. al.
I have got some quotes for a diff. conversion.
Bosjnak Engineering were the best, I thought, and wanted $2500 for new
housing, axle tubes, 4 pinion BTR LScentre,my choice of ratio, and VR
commodore calipers and discs. All new components, except for the discs.
This guy won't use second-hand parts, but those that will want at least
$900 in labour to shorten etc.. a Pintara/Skyline axle - and I would
have
to supply the parts and hope they last.
That kind of money is more than I have spent on the car so I'd like to
try
using a Bluebird axle.
I have just done some quick measuring and the Stanza is ~1285mm backing
plate to backing plate, and the Bluey is 1313mm.
I know of two s3 Bluebird TRX's in my area that are available for
wrecking
Q1. Are all s3 TRX's LSD?
Q2. Do you think that this conversion will work? (obviously suspension
pickup points will have to be converted to Stanza spec.)
Note that body width at rear axle is qouted in the homologation papers
as
1600mm, I can lip but not flare the guards.
Q3. I know that you (Errol) recommended 3/4 degree camber and 3mm toe
for
the rear axle, but where do you measure the toe from, or what is the
figure
in degrees?
Thankyou in advance
Nick.
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