Zac,
Good thinking here, just watch that the "ackerman angle" is OK.
This is basically the angle drawn through the two ball joint centers on the
steering arm to the vehicle centre line. It's this angle that determines
how different the inside wheel turning circle is to the outside wheel
turning circle. Needed to avoid one wheel working against the other (toe
in/out) in a turn.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 22:28 PM
Subject: Re: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
> Has anyone looked into swapping the steering arm from that model? Provided
> it is the same length and fits over the same sized ball joint, wouldn't it
> negate the need for a spacer piece? Thus strut bolts in.
>
> Also if the arm is shorter, wouldn't it make the steering turn faster?
This
> could be done instead of changing the steering box ratio? Then adjust your
> bumpstops to stop you from turning it too far. Then if it's longer your
> steering is slower....!
>
> Surely there is flaws, it sounds too simple :)
>
> later,
> zac
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
>
>
> > Errol,
> > What do you think would be the problems encountered with fitting 910
> struts
> > with S12 brakes on a 1600. The only problem identified so far is the
> > different balljoint housing on the 910 strut.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol Smith
> > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 7:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
> >
> >
> > Nick,
> > The Bluebird Skyline Verada/Z32 300ZX conversion uses Skyline GTS
struts.
> > They have the 100mm caliper spacings.
> > Cheers
> > Feral Errol
> > WWW.Datrats.com.au
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Ken Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
> > Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 19:24
> >
> > What is the story with threaded spring seats?
> > Do you have to get them machined up yourself, or are they available
> > somewhere? (Errol is planning to sell them)
> > What do you do about the top spring seat/strut top interface?
> > I don't think that the Bluebird strut is any different to normal datto
> > struts in terms of stub axle angle.
> > I am doing the Bluebird strut conversion at the moment, the caliper is
the
> > same internally as the 200b, so I don't see that it is going to be much
of
> > an improvement, but the struts give me the option to upgrgade to verada
> > discs and 300ZX calipers (or to fit gazelle vented discs using standard
> > caliper) later on if the performance is not up to scratch.
> > Regards,
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 11:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Brakes
> >
> >
> > > This sounds similar to an R31 strut conversion?
> > >
> > > zac
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ritchie Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > >
> > > > This conversion was pretty straight forward. The only areas I had to
> > > modify was
> > > > to make a small sleeve to space between the ball joint location
> diamter
> > > into
> > > > the bottom of the strut. This was required due to the fact the
> Bluebird
> > > strut
> > > > had a larger location diameter than the std P510. You could maybe
get
> > away
> > > > without doing this on a road car. The only other thing I did was put
> > > threaded
> > > > sleeves on the struts for the adjustable spring seats. The 910 strut
> is
> > a
> > > bit
> > > > shorter that the 200b ones I had in there before. These brakes fit
> > under
> > > some
> > > > of my 13" wheels & all my 14" ones. There is no need to swap the
> struts
> > > side to
> > > > side as I've heard mentioned on the list for some of the other
> > > conversions.
> > > >
> > > > These brakes are pretty good with Pagid pads in & don't fade at all.
I
> > had
> > > > thought they were pretty good with some Lucas metal pads in but the
> > Pagid
> > > pads
> > > > have transformed the braking on tarmac stages. Pad changes are
pretty
> > easy
> > > as
> > > > you only remove one M8 bolt & loosen the other to swing the body of
> the
> > > caliper
> > > > & slip in the new pads.
> > > >
> > > > If you need to know anything more just ask.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ritchie Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Terry wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Richie,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the rally car a 510? (1600) I presume it is and if so could you
> > give
> > > us a
> > > > > run down on how easy it is to fit the 910 or S12 Gazelle
ventilated
> > > front
> > > > > struts and discs (these are the same in Japan & I presume also in
> > NZ).
> > I
> > > > > have occasionally come across these and was curious if they were
an
> > > option
> > > > > for the 510 but as no one has done it around here that I know of
> > except
> > > in
> > > > > the early S1 910 which came with solid rotors in Aus.
> > > > >
> > > > > tia,
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ritchie
> > > > > Williams
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 10 November 2000 12:41 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > > > >
> > > > > Errol,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think it would be possible to use these Z32 calipers on a
> > smaller
> > > > > disk.
> > > > > I have been thinking of putting them on my rally car but wanted to
> > use
> > > 14".
> > > > > I've got 910 Bluebird struts which have vented disks at present &
> had
> > > been
> > > > > thinking of putting these on the rear to replace my 240Z drums &
> > getting
> > > the
> > > > > 4
> > > > > pots for the front.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any suggestions
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ritchie Williams
> > > > > Manager - Design Technology
> > > > > Vertex Pacific Limited
> > > > > 696 Te Rapa Rd
> > > > > Private Bag HN3044
> > > > > Hamilton
> > > > > New Zealand
> > > > > ph 64 7 8493 999
> > > > > fax 64 7 8498 764
> > > > > e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > Errol Smith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Zac,
> > > > > > If you got the pad so the outer radius is at the outer extremity
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > disc that would be acceptable I would think. Try a 300mm
Mercedes
> > > rotor
> > > > > > (cant remember which model), as they use a good cast iron alloy
> > > similar to
> > > > > > brembo.
> > > > > > An alternative is to mount the calipers on the opposite side to
> the
> > > > > > original lugs on reversed struts. Make a mounting bracket that
> > bolts
> > > onto
> > > > > > the holes where the dust plate used to mount. You will have to
> > drill
> > > and
> > > > > > tap some extra holes as well to make it strong enough and use
> > > countersunk
> > > > > > head high tensile bolts. This is the same method that was used
to
> > > mount
> > > > > > Commodore calipers on Datto struts back in the dark ages
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Feral Errol
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: Ozdat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > > > > > Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:51
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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