Andrew,
You can get different length springs in 65mm ID
Cheers
Feral Errol
WWW.Datrats.com.au
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From: andrew smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 14:10
I've used some of the pedders ones and was unable to keep the springs
captive
to achhieve the right ride height. this was with 200b struts on a 1200
ute.So
we had to wire the springs to the top.A defect notice waiting to happen.
Andrew Smith
Errol Smith wrote:
> Ritchie,
> Same deal we have here.
> Cheers
> Feral Errol
> WWW.Datrats.com.au
>
> ----------
> From: Ritchie Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Brakes (Bluebird struts/brakes)
> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:32
>
> Ken,
>
> The threaded spring seats are available here in NZ from reasonable
> suspension
> workshops & can be bought as a set with the sleeve & nuts & upper seat.
You
> just have to remove the existing spring seat with an angle grinder & then
> weld
> on the threaded sleeve. There are a two different spring diameters
> available(65mm & 75mm I think). The springs for these are are all 200mm
> long &
> are available in a variety of different lb ratings to suit from road to
> full
> race specification.
>
> --
> Ritchie Williams
>
> Ken Abraham wrote:
>
> > What is the story with threaded spring seats?
> > Do you have to get them machined up yourself, or are they available
> > somewhere? (Errol is planning to sell them)
> > What do you do about the top spring seat/strut top interface?
> > I don't think that the Bluebird strut is any different to normal datto
> > struts in terms of stub axle angle.
> > I am doing the Bluebird strut conversion at the moment, the caliper is
> the
> > same internally as the 200b, so I don't see that it is going to be much
> of
> > an improvement, but the struts give me the option to upgrgade to
verada
> > discs and 300ZX calipers (or to fit gazelle vented discs using standard
> > caliper) later on if the performance is not up to scratch.
> > Regards,
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 11:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Brakes
> >
> > > This sounds similar to an R31 strut conversion?
> > >
> > > zac
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ritchie Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > >
> > > > This conversion was pretty straight forward. The only areas I had
to
> > > modify was
> > > > to make a small sleeve to space between the ball joint location
> diamter
> > > into
> > > > the bottom of the strut. This was required due to the fact the
> Bluebird
> > > strut
> > > > had a larger location diameter than the std P510. You could maybe
get
> > away
> > > > without doing this on a road car. The only other thing I did was
put
> > > threaded
> > > > sleeves on the struts for the adjustable spring seats. The 910
strut
> is
> > a
> > > bit
> > > > shorter that the 200b ones I had in there before. These brakes fit
> under
> > > some
> > > > of my 13" wheels & all my 14" ones. There is no need to swap the
> struts
> > > side to
> > > > side as I've heard mentioned on the list for some of the other
> > > conversions.
> > > >
> > > > These brakes are pretty good with Pagid pads in & don't fade at
all.
> I
> > had
> > > > thought they were pretty good with some Lucas metal pads in but the
> > Pagid
> > > pads
> > > > have transformed the braking on tarmac stages. Pad changes are
pretty
> > easy
> > > as
> > > > you only remove one M8 bolt & loosen the other to swing the body of
> the
> > > caliper
> > > > & slip in the new pads.
> > > >
> > > > If you need to know anything more just ask.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ritchie Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Terry wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Richie,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the rally car a 510? (1600) I presume it is and if so could
you
> > give
> > > us a
> > > > > run down on how easy it is to fit the 910 or S12 Gazelle
ventilated
> > > front
> > > > > struts and discs (these are the same in Japan & I presume also in
> NZ).
> > I
> > > > > have occasionally come across these and was curious if they were
an
> > > option
> > > > > for the 510 but as no one has done it around here that I know of
> > except
> > > in
> > > > > the early S1 910 which came with solid rotors in Aus.
> > > > >
> > > > > tia,
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ritchie
> > > > > Williams
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 10 November 2000 12:41 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > > > >
> > > > > Errol,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think it would be possible to use these Z32 calipers on a
> > smaller
> > > > > disk.
> > > > > I have been thinking of putting them on my rally car but wanted
to
> use
> > > 14".
> > > > > I've got 910 Bluebird struts which have vented disks at present &
> had
> > > been
> > > > > thinking of putting these on the rear to replace my 240Z drums &
> > getting
> > > the
> > > > > 4
> > > > > pots for the front.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any suggestions
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ritchie Williams
> > > > > Manager - Design Technology
> > > > > Vertex Pacific Limited
> > > > > 696 Te Rapa Rd
> > > > > Private Bag HN3044
> > > > > Hamilton
> > > > > New Zealand
> > > > > ph 64 7 8493 999
> > > > > fax 64 7 8498 764
> > > > > e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > Errol Smith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Zac,
> > > > > > If you got the pad so the outer radius is at the outer
extremity
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > disc that would be acceptable I would think. Try a 300mm
Mercedes
> > > rotor
> > > > > > (cant remember which model), as they use a good cast iron alloy
> > > similar to
> > > > > > brembo.
> > > > > > An alternative is to mount the calipers on the opposite side to
> the
> > > > > > original lugs on reversed struts. Make a mounting bracket that
> bolts
> > > onto
> > > > > > the holes where the dust plate used to mount. You will have to
> drill
> > > and
> > > > > > tap some extra holes as well to make it strong enough and use
> > > countersunk
> > > > > > head high tensile bolts. This is the same method that was used
to
> > > mount
> > > > > > Commodore calipers on Datto struts back in the dark ages
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Feral Errol
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: Ozdat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Brakes
> > > > > > Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:51
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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