Diarmuid,
The conversion that you're talking about is usually done with 265mm Magna
TM, TN or TP rotors. The struts required for this conversion are the late
model 180B as the bolt spacing on VL Turbo callipers is only 3" (76.2mm).
The centre hole on the Magna rotors is machined out from 69mm to 73mm (1600
and early 180B axles are only 68mm) and also redrilled to suit the Datsun
hub which is fairly straight forward. Some ppl have used the early struts
and tack welded the rotors 1mm just to centre them, not my preferred option
but still seems to work. IMHO it's a good mid cost conversion, wide range of
pads, Ultimates etc.
A later modification to this method that could work although I haven't seen
it done (only talked about here) is to use the Magna rotors with 200B struts
and later model 3.5" (88.9mm) Holden callipers. I'm not sure if there are
offset issues with this but it should give good stoppers as the late model
callipers are a floating twin spot (pistons on the same side) and you still
get a good range of pads.
Anyone on the list (and still reading this far) used the late model Holden
callipers?
regards
Terry
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Diarmuid Tyson
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2001 9:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: brakes
While we're on the subject of brakes, is there much information around on
the Verada vented disks/VL Turbo callipers? I haven't been able to find
much on websites/archives.
Since my disks need replacing, I was going to weigh up the cost of other
upgrades. I'm currently running 240K GT struts at the front, with twin
spot Sumitomos. Most verada/VL conversions seem to use 180/200B struts -
can it be done on 240K? ...and what extra machining/custum brackets are
required to fit the disks/callipers.
Thanks,
Diarmuid Tyson
At 10:11 PM 24/05/01 +0800, you wrote:
>Trevor,
>Thanks for the info.Sounds like the late model 240k struts is what i
want.One
>thing though bothe the cruiser and hilux calipers i've seen have one large
and
>one small piston on each side.The small one looks to be around 30mm but the
>large one looks a lot bigger like around 40 plus mm so i'll have to
>measure them
>up on my next day off.
>Andrew Smith
>
>
>"Pooley, Trevor" wrote:
>
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Caliper Bolt spacing, Yes the same for 200B, 240K (253mm disk) and 240K
> > (270mm disk). (88.9mm rings a bell)
> >
> > Disk and caliper offsets were different on the 200B SX / 240K (253mm
disk).
> >
> > 240K (253mm disk)(early) and 240K (270mm disk)(later) calipers can be
> > different. AFAIK Early have 2 piston simitomos (48mm diameter pistons)
and
> > late (270mm disk) I have seen only with single piston calipers at
wreakers
> > (51mm diameter pistons). Andrew Greenbury (Ozdat list) showed me some
later
> > struts with 2 piston calipers. So this may have been an option or
possibly
> > someone has done a conversion to 2 pots.
> >
> > The Caliper bolt holes on the later 240K struts are further away from
the
> > center of the stub axcels. This mean you can not run early 240 K (253mm
> > disks) and 2 piston simitomos on a later strut. You can run the 2 piston
> > simitomos on the later strut with the 270mm disk.
> >
> > AFAIK hilux and volvo four pots have pistons which are only 30mm
diameter.
> > So from my sums SQ cm total piston area for four pots is 28.27. For the
> > simitomos 36.19. So I believe the simitomos have 28% more clamping
> potential
> > than the hilux/volvo combos.
> >
> > I run 240K Later struts with new RDA disks (270mm), simitomo calipers
and
> > bendix ultimate pads for sprints.
> >
> > Regards
> > Trev
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2001 23:10
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: brakes
> >
> > Can anyone tell me is the 200b and 240k bolt spacing the same for the
> > calipers and is one set out further in relation to the disk that the
> > other.One of the 240k's had 270mm disks so is the bolt holes further out
on
> > the strut or
> > did they use different calipers again.The reason I ask is that i want
> to fit
> > landcruiser calipers to the original holes but want them out as far as
> > possible so I dont have to machine to much off a suitable disk(honda
282mm)
> > as the
> > cruiser calipers are to suit 300mm disk.
> > Andrew Smith
> >
> > "Wisniewski, Daniel (D.)" wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew,
> > > I have 240K struts, the calipers are off a '94 landcruser
which
> > are the same as the Hilux one's but newer so less chance of a rebuild.
I
> > can't remember how big the disks are as I did it well over 12 months
ago,
> > sorry.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 10:09 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: brakes
> > >
> > > Daniel,
> > > What struts do you have?Are all the landcruiser calipers the same if
not
> > what model did you use?What dia did the disks end up and how thick are
the?
> > > Andrew Smith
> > >
> > > "Wisniewski, Daniel (D.)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've got that setup on my 1600, they are honda disks I'm not sure
> of the
> > part #, you have to open the hole up in the centre of the hub as well as
> > machine the outside of the disk down a little bit.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 10:04 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: brakes
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone on the list used the hilux/landcruiser 4 spots to suit
> vented
> > > > disks?If so what disks were used and what was involved in fitting
> them.I
> > > > have a set of volvo atc 4 spots but dont really want to make brakets
to
> > > > suit there bolt spacing.Any other suggestions as i want to use
vented
> > > > disks.A mate has just fitted the hilux to solid disk setup and
cooked
> > > > them in 3 sprints.
> > > > Andrew Smith
> > > >
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