g`day,

 Ive got a set of `81 hilux 4 spots with the different sized pistons,
pistons are roughly 28.5mm and 37.5mm, the pad is 105mm width and 50mm
height in centre and tapers to 35mm at the ends.
 The calipers weigh approx 5kgs each(with pads and fluid).
 These are the solid disc type(10-12mm disc width).

 They do work quite well, they stop and feel good but do suffer from fade
after a few high speed stops, this is with shitty $25 pads tho. I dont think
there are metal kings or ultimates available for these calipers but there is
the 4WD pad, which should work pretty good under most circumstances.

 Im usin the 253mm 200b strut/disc, a 7/8" dual circuit M/C, no booster and
std rear drums(atm).

 Paddy

----- Original Message -----
From: Pooley, Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: brakes


> Andrew,
>
> The ones I've seen are 4X 3cm but I believe there are ones like you have
> said.
> If you find out can you let me know the piston sizes. If the pistons are
3cm
> and 4cm then total piston area is 39.27cm2. Find out roughly what the pad
> area is too if you can. Pitty they weight so much.
>
> Regards
> Trev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 25 May 2001 0:12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: brakes
>
>
> Trevor,
> Thanks for the info.Sounds like the late model 240k struts is what i
> want.One
> thing though bothe the cruiser and hilux calipers i've seen have one large
> and
> one small piston on each side.The small one looks to be around 30mm but
the
> large one looks a lot bigger like around 40 plus mm so i'll have to
measure
> them
> up on my next day off.
> Andrew Smith
>
>
> "Pooley, Trevor" wrote:
>
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Caliper Bolt spacing, Yes the same for 200B, 240K (253mm disk) and 240K
> > (270mm disk). (88.9mm rings a bell)
> >
> > Disk and caliper offsets were different on the 200B SX / 240K (253mm
> disk).
> >
> > 240K (253mm disk)(early) and 240K (270mm disk)(later) calipers can be
> > different. AFAIK Early have 2 piston simitomos (48mm diameter pistons)
and
> > late (270mm disk) I have seen only with single piston calipers at
wreakers
> > (51mm diameter pistons). Andrew Greenbury (Ozdat list) showed me some
> later
> > struts with 2 piston calipers. So this may have been an option or
possibly
> > someone has done a conversion to 2 pots.
> >
> > The Caliper bolt holes on the later 240K struts are further away from
the
> > center of the stub axcels. This mean you can not run early 240 K (253mm
> > disks) and 2 piston simitomos on a later strut. You can run the 2 piston
> > simitomos on the later strut with the 270mm disk.
> >
> > AFAIK hilux and volvo four pots have pistons which are only 30mm
diameter.
> > So from my sums SQ cm total piston area for four pots is 28.27. For the
> > simitomos 36.19. So I believe the simitomos have 28% more clamping
> potential
> > than the hilux/volvo combos.
> >
> > I run 240K Later struts with new RDA disks (270mm), simitomo calipers
and
> > bendix ultimate pads for sprints.
> >
> > Regards
> > Trev
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2001 23:10
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: brakes
> >
> > Can anyone tell me is the 200b and 240k bolt spacing the same for the
> > calipers and is one set out further in relation to the disk that the
> > other.One of the 240k's had 270mm disks so is the bolt holes further out
> on
> > the strut or
> > did they use different calipers again.The reason I ask is that i want to
> fit
> > landcruiser calipers to the original holes but want them out as far as
> > possible so I dont have to machine to much off a suitable disk(honda
> 282mm)
> > as the
> > cruiser calipers are to suit 300mm disk.
> > Andrew Smith
> >
> > "Wisniewski, Daniel (D.)" wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew,
> > >         I have 240K struts, the calipers are off a '94 landcruser
which
> > are the same as the Hilux one's but newer so less chance of a rebuild.
I
> > can't remember how big the disks are as I did it well over 12 months
ago,
> > sorry.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 10:09 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: brakes
> > >
> > > Daniel,
> > > What struts do you have?Are all the landcruiser calipers the same if
not
> > what model did you use?What dia did the disks end up and how thick are
> the?
> > > Andrew Smith
> > >
> > > "Wisniewski, Daniel (D.)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've got that setup on my 1600, they are honda disks I'm not sure of
> the
> > part #, you have to open the hole up in the centre of the hub as well as
> > machine the outside of the disk down a little bit.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: andrew smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 10:04 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: brakes
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone on the list used the hilux/landcruiser 4 spots to suit
> vented
> > > > disks?If so what disks were used and what was involved in fitting
> them.I
> > > > have a set of volvo atc 4 spots but dont really want to make brakets
> to
> > > > suit there bolt spacing.Any other suggestions as i want to use
vented
> > > > disks.A mate has just fitted the hilux to solid disk setup and
cooked
> > > > them in 3 sprints.
> > > > Andrew Smith
> > > >
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