I know all about turbo's fouling on things!!!  I finished my custom manifold
for the T03 and decided to check if the engine mounts fitted, this was after
I spent 100 bucks on getting the flanges milled flat.  If the engine didn't
have to have the engine mounts swapped side to side(Z-18et) then it would
have fit perfectly, but now it fouls on the engine mount.  It's going to be
dick all work to fix it, but then I'll have to get the flange that bolts  to
the engine re-milled which = more $$$$$$$$$$$$.
But hey, you learn from these expenses, sorry experiences.

Daniel Kroehn

----- Original Message -----
From: "LIEBIG, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)


> James,
>
> What you are saying is in broad terms correct, but in reality there are a
> lot of things that you need to take into account - mainly to do with the
> positioning of the turbo. Things get tight very quickly when fitting
larger
> turbos. You'd be amazed how quickly things start fouling on brackets,
engine
> mounts, suspension towers, etc. etc. Before you know it you are changing
the
> whole arrangement.
>
> What engine/car/turbo combination have you got?
>
> PL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Marmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 11:15
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
> all that is diferent is the turbo mounting point isnt it?
> cant u make the one spaghetti cluster and have different turbo mountings
> depending on what they want
> i would be interested in one for the standard turbo to start with
> then i would look at cutting the turbo mount off and replacing it with the
> correct one when i want to upgrade
> keep me posted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LIEBIG, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 11:31 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
>
> Nope. I'd have to work out if it was worth doing first. Most people are
> happy to stick with the T25 family turbos so they don't need a manifold
> made. There'd have to be a few guys who wanted some done to make it worth
> the effort.
>
> PL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Marmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:59
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
> they never are cheap
> u got one for a ca?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LIEBIG, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:09 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
>
> James,
>
> Yeah, trouble is anything unusual like that needs to be designed from
> scratch. The dump pipes I make are already as tight as I'd want to go, so
> they may even work as is!
>
> I've already started on the custom turbo manifolds too - prize shit job so
> they wouldn't be cheap!
>
> PL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Marmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:21
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
> hows about making a ca into a 1200 ute dumpy?
> or trying your hand at turbo extractors.........u would get alot of
business
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LIEBIG, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:31 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Yeah, I thought I'd come back and see how the list is going!  I was
> subscribed on my home address before and it was getting a bit much. This
> time I've tried doing it at work, so we'll see how it goes. Between the
> Srtransplants list and this one I'm afraid my email volume may be getting
a
> bit high!
>
> I'm currently not running a cat (smack smack!), but when I do I guess it
> will be in the usual place just after the dump pipe.
>
> The best dump pipe dia is generally 3". That's pretty much the biggest
> you'll fit without hassles. I've made a few now and I'm considering making
a
> batch for sale to suit SR's into 1600's. I'll send you a photo of one.
I've
> seen a lot of "professional" dump pipes and I've decided that it wouldn't
be
> too hard to improve on them myself!
>
> PL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Kroehn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 18:57
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
> HOLY SHIT,
>
> where did you come from Pete, I thought you'd left the list forever?
> Anyway, thanks for the advice.  The muffler I have coming has a 2.25 inlet
> and 4 inch outlet.  So I'm still undecided what size to go from the
> crossmember back.  Up until the crossmember I'm going to use 3 inch for
> sure.  Where did you mount your cat?  The other question I have is what
size
> dump pipe to use?  I want to seperate the internal wastegate gases from
the
> turbine gases and join them together after the dump pipe exits the engine
> bay.  The turbine itself is only about 2.25" in diameter so should I use a
> 2.25" - 3" reducer/expander and build a 3 inch dumpy with a 1.25" seperate
> wastegate pipe?
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel Kroehn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LIEBIG, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
>
>
> > Daniel,
> >
> > I'm with Geordie - 3" up front with 2 1/2" down back is a good
compromise.
> > Easier to silence too. And if it's on a 1600 it's heaps easier to get it
> > through the rear crossmember.
> >
> > I'm running that setup with my SR20 and at 14psi boost the exhaust
> > backpressure never exceeds 3 psi.
> >
> > PL
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geordie Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 15:13
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > 2.5" is generally a lot cheaper and in my opinion there is not a lot of
> > benefit to the expense of going to a 3" system.
> > If you want the best of both worlds, you can go for 3" off the turbo and
> go
> > down to 2.5" further back as the gas is cooler and will condense
slightly.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Kroehn
> > Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2002 8:36 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Exhaust sizes (HELP)
> >
> >
> > List,
> >
> > heres a question for all you switched on turbo boys.  Following
> traditional
> > lines for an exhaust, I was going to get a 3 inch system for my turbo
> > project.  However after reading "maximum boost" by corky bell, it seems
> that
> > he reckons that for the approximate engine power output of my engine, I
> > should use a 2.5 inch system.  The book also states that for a turbo
setup
> > the least exhaust is the best?  I'm very confused by now.  Anyway back
to
> > the 2.5 inch set-up, this size comes from a few calculations to do with
> > exhaust gas  velocities.  He recommends that the exhaust gases shouldn't
> > exceed ~450 feet per second, and thus a 3 inch system would be capable
of
> > much more than that, so no good?
> > There's a bit more in the book but at this stage I've just become
totally
> > confused.
> >
> > Eagerly awaiting some opinions..................
> >
> > Daniel Kroehn
> >
> >
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