Justin, Ryan and I checked with an autmotive engineer a few weeks ago and have posted these once before, but here tis again for the South Australians.
This engineer checks to make sure the car is generally neat and tidy, and it must also have passed a full Regency (roadworthy) inspection. The car must then pass a chassis torsional rigidity test then a brake fade test. They test rigidity with a beam and weights, and the minumum allowable flex is around 5500N/degree. For a 30 year old car you need a pretty reasonable shell (or a decent legal cage I suppose) to get this (read: rust is bad) The brake fade test is 15 stops from 60km/hr pulling at least 0.5G and then 2 stops from 100km/hr pulling at least 0.8G- traditionally this was carried out on a racetrack (big dollars to hire!) but the engineer we spoke to said since the speed would be legal on an open road you just have to find one quiet enough. Craig Williams' (Maddat) Mazda 4 spot/11" Vented upgrade has passed easily, to give you an idea what calibre brakes you need. I don't think it's easier than the eastern states because afaik they can approve a transplant on principle&inspection now, whereas we still have to do road tests. Not sure about that one though.. - Tom -----Original Message----- From: Justin Friedrichs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 21 January 2002 11:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: engineering 1600 wOT about SA, you guys know how strict they are?? I would have thought they would be easier than Vic or NSW?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Cam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > NSW = RTA = Very Hard > > Vic = Vic Roads = Very Easy > > Cam > CM510 > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > The engineer i went to here in Sydney wanted both cat and unleaded > filler > > neck, and mines a 71. WHAT DA? > > > > > > >From: "Cam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > >Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:33:57 +1100 > > > > > >Standard filler nozzle, cause the car being 72 didn't have to run ULP. > > > > > >I could have run leaded fuel and no cat. > > > > > >Cam > > >CM510 > > >www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:15 AM > > >Subject: RE: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cam and Geordie and everyone, > > > > > > > > Regarding requiring an unleaded fuel filler neck for a conversion - > is > > > > this just for the different size filler, or because a different > rubber > > >is > > > > required for use with unleaded? > > > > > > > > Also Cam, which fuel filler nozzle did you use for your car? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > Chris, From my experience, an engineer will inspect anything > modified > > >on > > > > > your car which is different to factory issue for that model. Then > he > > >checks > > > > > that it all complies with the ADR rules, ie pollution, safety, > etc. > If > > > > > anything does not comply or is structurally unsafe, then he will > tell > > >you to > > > > > modify something another way and come back. If all is well with > his > > > > > inspection, then he writes a report, takes your money and hands > you > > >the > > > > > report. > > > > > > > > > > Most engineers I spoke to were great blokes who were all too > willing > > >to > > >help > > > > > you out. Most of 'em are hoons like us who have 20 years of extra > > >living > > > > > under their belt and just want you to have a safe / roadworthy > car, > > >and > > >to > > > > > share their knowledge and hindsight with you for a fee. > > > > > > > > > > I put a SR20DET in a TRX and all I did was do the work I thought I > had > > >to > > > > > do, rung a few engineers and asked them what mods they required, > etc. > > >The > > > > > only things which were stipulated was that I have an unleaded fuel > > >nozzle, > > > > > and that after I get that, to go to the RTA and get a pollution > test > > >done. > > > > > Then I rung him up again once that was done, we spent about an > hour > > > > > together, I showed him all the things I did to change the car from > > >NORMAL to > > > > > what it is now, gave him the pollution report and the next day he > gave > > >me > > > > > his engineer's report. > > > > > > > > > > There is absolutely nothing to worry about so long as everything > you > > >do > > > > > seems good to you, then chances are when inspection time comes, > it'll > > >look > > > > > good enough to the engineer! > > > > > > > > > > In a nutshell, and as Cam said..Sortov... They are making an > > >Engineer's > > > > > Report, and that is all it is. A report of what things have been > > >modified on > > > > > your car. All too simple! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris > > >Simpson > > > > > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 11:07 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA'ers? > > > > > > > > > > Does any one know how the sort of things that Cam has got > engineered > > >in > > > > > Victoria compares to what you'd get away with in WA? Obviously > the > > >ADR's > > > > > are all the same, but it is often the interpretation of them that > > >matters > > > > > by the individual engineers and the pits. > > > > > > > > > > Chris S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CM510 writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like your 1600 is coming along well :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was engineered about 6 months ago, and as far as I know > nothing > > >has > > > > > > changed since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Engineered with; > > > > > > > > > > > > No rear seats (or rear seat belts) > > > > > > Half roll cage (that is padded) > > > > > > 'Modified suspension, including performance springs and > > >shock-absorbers' > > > > > > (nothing more specific than this) > > > > > > No heater core...but does retain the fan for windscreen > demisting > > > > > > Four point race harnesses > > > > > > > > > > > > The engineer made brief mention of the reversed bend steering > drag > > >link > > > > > and > > > > > > front cross member saying 'modified to the engineers > satisfaction' > > > > > > > > > > > > My car also has Fixed Back fiber glass front seats, no roof > lining, > > > > > carpet, > > > > > > door trims or radio. No specific mention of these was made in > the > > >report, > > > > > > this may mean that either a) The engineer 'didn't see them' or > b) > > >they > > > > > are > > > > > > legal and don't need to be mentioned. I did c) not say > anything, > so > > >as > > > > > not > > > > > > to stir the pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been meaning to scan and post a copy on my web-site, I > > >*will* > > >get > > > > > is > > > > > > done soon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Catcha soon, (if I can :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s., a lot comes down to the particular engineer you use, I > highly > > > > > > recommend Geoff Watters. VERY fair and reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > CM510 > > > > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: Ozdat mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:08 PM > > > > > > Subject: engineering 1600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey fellas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who has done an engineered 1600 in Victoria recently? If you > > >have, > > > > > could > > > > > > > you give me some guidelines as to what I can and can't do, and > > >what > > > > > probs > > > > > > > you had. I don't want it to be a road driven car, but want to > > >drive > > >it > > > > > to > > > > > > > and from track days, and the occasional Sunday cruise. It > will > be > > > > > getting > > > > > > a > > > > > > > sr20de, upgraded brakes (a setup that doesn't need mods - like > > >some > > >twin > > > > > > > piston sumo's front, and some sort of disk combo for rear), > r180 > > >diff, > > > > > > fully > > > > > > > stripped inside (basically set up purely for racing purposes) > with > > > > > racing > > > > > > > seat, harness, for engineers I presume I have to have a > passenger > > >seat > > > > > and > > > > > > > seat belt (do I need to put in the rear seats?). Don't want > to > > >have > > >any > > > > > > > trim, carpets and all the bull shit. Will be doing all the > wiring > > > > > myself. > > > > > > > Will try to make up/modify mounts, cross member and stuff > myself. > > >Also > > > > > > roll > > > > > > > cage... Also, when it comes to cutting out rust and welding > in > > >new > > > > > steel, > > > > > > > do I need to pass this by an engineer, or do I just not tell > him > I > > >have > > > > > > done > > > > > > > it? One example of where I have to do this is the drivers > floor, > > >which > > > > > is > > > > > > > quite badly rusted (through in some places, like accelerator > > >mount), > > >and > > > > > > > will have to be totally replaced. Also other things like fuel > > >supply, > > > > > > pump > > > > > > > will be mounted under the car basically, do I have to retain a > > >spare > > > > > tyre > > > > > > > wheel well... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any info would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
