cool, no doubt i'll be emailing th elist with some sorta emergency hehe nothig ever 
goes smoothly when it comes to me and cars :)

Thanks again
James

--- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No worries, pleasure.
>
>I just thought of something I left out that is tres important.
>
>After you get head back on, chain and optionally dizzy back in place, and
>the valves clearances set, I always recommend that at this point in a
>rebuild you turn the engine over through 720 degrees at the crank (which is
>360 degrees on the cam) to make sure nothing hits. It's way too late when
>you hit the starter and the cam timing is out to the point that there is
>component contact. Then there are lots of tears and they ain't of joy.
>
>This process is also useful to double check that the cam timing is dialled
>in where you wanted or thought you put it - at the end of the 720 degree
>crank rotation carefully bring the crank back onto TDC #1 compression just
>as you did before the teardown, and check the "V" against the indent on the
>thrust plate again. This is a bit tricky if you've haven't got the timing
>cover in place but you'll work out how to deal with that.
>
>regards
>terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Wrom: GDADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQT
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Morrison
>Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 3:16 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: head gasket change
>
>
>terry thanks heaps mate. Thats a big help !
>
>James
>
>--- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>James,
>>
>>Most of the manuals are reasonably useful with changing a head gasket but
>>what most of the manuals don't cover is a few preliminary steps to make
>>changing a head gasket a lot easier to get everything back together right,
>>especially the timings. I call it preparation and it's always a good idea
>>IMHO.
>>
>>1. Remove the plugs and turn the engine over (by hand) until you are on TDC
>>compression stroke on #1 i.e. (timing indicator on crank pulley indicates 0
>>and both valves on #1 pointing upwards) and dismantle the engine in that
>>position.
>>
>>2. Check that the dizzy rotor is pointing where it should be (L16/L18 is
>>towards the radiator, I'm not sure on L20B) so you know if the drive shaft
>>was put in right or 180 degrees out the last time someone had the engine
>>apart. Failure to do this results in many a "help" post to this list when
>>the engine spits out flames on start-up.
>>
>>3. Note which hole the cam dowel pin is located in the timing wheel, also
>>where the "V" in the wheel is in relation to the indent on the thrust
>>plate - refer to the manual on the method to do this. If the "V" is to the
>>left of the indent (i.e. valve timing retarded), then you will re-fit the
>>cam with more advance i.e. in a higher number until it's dead centre of the
>>indent or slightly to the right. If it's in #3 already and it's still
>>retarded then a new chain, guides and adjuster is required, as well as
>>timing cover, oil pump to t/cover, and (optional) water pump to t/cover
>>gaskets.
>>
>>4. if the timing cover isn't already off or not coming off the engine, make
>>up the little chock (specs are in the manual) to keep the adjuster in
>place,
>>otherwise you'll need the additional gaskets shown in point 3.
>>
>>Tools you'll need: (most of them anyway)
>>
>>10mm/12mm/14mm spanners (I use dwarf rings & sockets mainly, call me fussy
>>but I hate burring bolts with open ended spanners with a passion)
>>19mm socket or ring to remove cam timing wheel (I think that bolt is 19mm
>>but it could be 22mm and you need a 22mm for the sump plug)
>>oil filter remover
>>3" & 6" extension bars and optional ratchet to suite
>>plug spanner
>>14mm/17mm open end spanners (mainly for adjusting rockers)
>>feeler gauges
>>10mm allen drive about 40mm long (used to undo head bolts)
>>screw drivers (both blade & phillips)
>>tension wrench
>>
>>
>>Parts:
>>VRS or Head set (I think a head set doesn't contain valve guide seals)
>>Sealant (eg Blue RTV)
>>Oil & filter (optional, you can change the oil after 200k's or so if it was
>>good before you started i.e. no water in it)
>>Coolant
>>
>>That's about all I could think off just now, prolly forgot something, I
>hope
>>it isn't anything major.
>>
>>regards
>>Terry
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Wrom: VWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHA
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Morrison
>>Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 4:06 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: head gasket change
>>
>>
>>is there anywhere i can get a good detailed step by step walk thru of a
>>gasket change for a datto?
>>i have the manual, thats not bad but some extra would be good
>>James
>>
>>--- "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>you will need a vrs set, and gasket goo.
>>>if your game u can use a set square and feeler gauges.
>>>
>>> mark k
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>Wrom: HJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYC
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:24 PM
>>>Subject: head gasket change
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> hey all, im changing my second head gasket, however this one is for
>>>someone else and i want to do it 100% properly (not like mine, guess as
>you
>>>go). i basically just need a list of all the stuff i'll need and a
>>>good/cheap place in melbourne to get the head checked to see if it is
>>>warped. its an L20 with 4-2-1 extractors, twin su's and some head work i
>>>think.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> James
>>>>
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