Thanks Thomas, What are the brakes like - good feel, dead? awesome? what pads did you use?
Mark, Spring perches are a piece of cake to change over with the right tools (like most things), and yes there is welding involved. R30 struts must be similar to Bluebird 910T and S12 Gazelle as they both use the DBA612 10" vented disc - i.e. piece of cake to fit to a 1600 with the spacers under the balljoints. I've looked it this before, someone in NZ used 910T struts in a 1600 and he said it was a bolt in with the spacers. I wonder why more of us don't do this? It's got to be easier than the Mitsui/VL turbo thing, but the good thing about that combo is always going to be pad selection - i.e. you take your pick as it's Holden(together). I wonder if these spacers are legal, I just can't figure why not popular - could be the wreckers aren't full of S12 Gazelles? regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of thomas grant Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: R31 rear disc conv/front upgrade Mark and Terry, I performed the r30 strut/r31 brake upgrade on my 1600 a few weeks ago. The spring perches on an r30 strut are actually the same as on a 1600 strut and don't require modification. Thomas. >From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: R31 rear disc conv/front upgrade >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:21:58 +1100 > >That sounds like it would be a good cheap upgrade Terry, but how difficult >is it to change the spring perches?? Is there welding involved or is it a >bolt on thing? >I assume when you say fit R31 brakes you mean both discs and calipers?? >could you then upgrade to the four spot R32 calipers later on? >Thanks for all your help, if i can use the cheaper R31 brakes while >avoiding >the strut offset problems it would be great! I like saving $$$ >Any idea on the braking performance difference between this sort of setup >and the VL turbo/verada one?? > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Rudd >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:48 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: R31 rear disc conv/front upgrade > > >Mark, > >Interesting theory about Pintara brake components being in batter condition >than off a Skyline - I've not found a lot of difference with Sydney cars >that you could say suggests any hard & fast rules apply. > >Front brakes - the combination that got my attention recently as doable on >a >budget is to use DR30 struts modified with either coil overs or the spring >perches changed over to 1600 (you got to do one or the other and changeover >the spring perch is easier?), use the balljoint slip rings (Errol supplies) >and fit R31 brakes. R31 struts have a weird offset balljoint housing and >they don't look to me as something I'd like to fit to a 1600 without some >serious testing for suitability etc. >I'll be able to tell you more shortly as I've just bought a Series 2 GX-E >R31 Skyline and I pick it up later on today. > >regards >Terry > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Firman >Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 12:01 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: R31 rear disc conv/front upgrade > > >I actually only chose the pintara ones because every R31 skyline that was >there had parts stripped off it, either calipers or discs, and i decided it >was best not to go mixing and matching. I took the wheels of a pintara and >the calipers looked the same, and the discs were in much better condition >so >i thought i'd risk it :) I didn't end up getting the discs though as i >think >i will buy them new. I will also be doing a front brake upgrade so i >thought >i would start with fresh discs all round.. >Actually any opinions on front brake upgrades would be great - i was >considering the R31 struts and brakes, or possibly the VL turbo and verada >mixture.. Are there any major pros or cons either way?? >Thanks for all the help >Mark. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick White >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:06 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: R31 rear disc conv. > > >Good choice mate, what were your reasons for choosing the pintara ones? >Later. >Rick White. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:31 PM >Subject: RE: R31 rear disc conv. > > > > Thats a good theory Rick, and i'm happy you said that as i did buy the > > pintara ones! > > Thanks! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick White > > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:18 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: R31 rear disc conv. > > > > > > Mark, > > Even though they are identical, I would buy the pintarra ones myself, >they > > normally have had a better life and have more meat left on the disks. > > The reason for this is the skyline is a 6 cylinder as opposed to the > > pintarra being a 4 cylinder so people seem to be a little more harsher >with > > braking cornering speeds with the skyline. > > Later. > > Rick White. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Membersozdat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:24 PM > > Subject: R31 rear disc conv. > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Just a quick question - it was discussed recently but i just wanted to > > > double check that the rear discs/calipers are the same on the skyline >and > > > pintara. I was at the wreckers and they looked the same but just >wanted >to > > > double check that both can go onto 1600s without any problems.. > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones.�Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
