I only ever run in Supersprints here in Adelaide, which is basically
your average street car with no limits, my car was much quicker than
most Historic cars because of the freedom.
I wouldn't want to go back to a 4 speed and R160 and lose my Webbers for
SU's!!!!

It all depends how competitive you want to be as there are plenty quick
cars in improved production!

The diff weights would be a bit more than a couple of kilos for and R160
- R200 comparison but I have an R180 4.11 in my car and didn't notice
any difference in handling etc.

5.1 would be good for hillclimbing but I found the 4.11 a good
compromise for all round driving (road, track , drags) but maybe a 4.4
would be slightly better on acceleration.
It all depends on gearbox ratios, tyre size etc.

Regards
Dan G

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Oldham
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2004 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Installing Subaru LSD
Importance: High


Yeah datsun 1600 is the intended recipient

I am currently torn between the whole historic thing & just going
improved production which free's up a lot of stuff.....

historic your stuck with mostly original "casings" but internals are
free so stuck with r160 diff housing but free ratios etc same with
gearbox......stuck with 4 speed, but any gears u want are OK in some
ways it seems to make it harder & more expensive not cheaper.......

one of the guys who runs an historic 1600 reckons the bigger diffs are
to heavy and i suppose saving weight is good.....but there cant be much
difference can there ? maybe a couple of Kilo's at worst i suppose ?

I am wondering if it will end up being easier & cheaper to just go
improved production there is certainly much more freedom.

Oh & you can advertise on improved production cars, but not on historics
! I currently run in "road registered" class.

I really fancy the idea of a 5.1 diff ratio as a cheap speed maker for
climbing those damn hills !

QLD hillclimb champs this weekend 5th & 6th Gramzow rd Mt Cotton (south
of
Brisbane)
Saturday you might get in free as its practise day, but Sunday there
will definately be a charge sorry, but i dont know how much, club
meetings are usually free for spectators.

Believe it or not the old 1600 is not always the slowest car there even
though it has still got stock running gear & suspension !, QLD champs
though should see some quick cars turn up !

I am rambling again so better go :)

anybody turns up on the weekend come for a chat if you want white datsun
1600 no.66

cheers Jeff








Subject: RE: Installing Subaru LSD


I've got a list of ratios avail for each diff R160, R180 , R190, R200 at
home. I'm pretty sure a 5.1 for an R160 would be hard to find and the
bigger ones won't fit in the R160 case. I believe a bigger diff is
better in a 1600 (is this what its going
into?) as they benefit from the extra weight down back.
I would go for the R160 subaru LSD in 4.1 or 4.4 with either a Z 5 speed
or similar (depending on the Historic regs?) as these would be easier to
find than the Datto ones in R160 size.

Dan G.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Oldham
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2004 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Installing Subaru LSD
Importance: High


this might sound like a stupid question.....i know i know
But can you put a better ratio say 5.1 in the original datsun 1600 diff
housing ? or do you need to actually change the whole diff ?

two reasons for asking this question

1.0 I am still trying to keep my car historic (which means original
housing, but not internals - go figure) 2.0 i have been told the other
diffs are very heavy & can affect car balance

anybody know or got an opinion ?

ta Jeff


Subject: RE: Installing Subaru LSD


mark,

ive looked at a Subaru R180 from a STI recently, my interest is whether
the datsun r160 'axles' will fit the splines in the centre or whether i
would have to have something made to work

the 4.11 R180 LSD is only $750 (clutch packed)

once i have a chance, my plan is to try some datto shafts on the r180
and see what fits

can any one else shed some light on this?


tim


>From: "Mark Overend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Installing Subaru LSD
>Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:30:16 +1000
>
>Has anyone put a Subaru lsd in their datto igot a r160 4.4 lsd on the 
>weekend and was wondering if anyone has installed one themselves and 
>what is required. The splines are different i have been told.
>
>I'm not sure if i  can use the 280zx half shafts?  Cheers 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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