Elf works well but its specific gravity is much less than pump fuels so a full remap is in order to get the most out of it where as with vp c16 its just a matter of dialing in as much timing as it takes to make max hp without having to touch the fuel maps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: Re: octane rating...
> i seen the wonders that Elf racing fuel does for turbo cars, > > heath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: octane rating... > > > > The last octane booster test that was done by CSIRO on their knock machine > > really only proved that 2 octane booster meet there claims.One of them was > > nulon pro strength and the other was NF black label. > > With pump fuels,avgas and toluene there specific gravity is very close to > > each other so there is no need for drastic fuel increases although fuel > with > > high levels of toluene(25-50%) make more hp at richer levels compared to > > straight fuels which is good for turbo engines which should be generally > be > > run at richer levels than what would be normaly be the optimum for max hp > on > > pump fuel. > > The best thing about higher octane on turbo cars is that a couple of > simple > > changes can mean big increaes in power like more boost and an increase in > > timing.This is not always the case in a normaly aspirated engine as unless > > the timing has been greatly reduced running pump fuel because of high comp > > etc then there maybe very little gains to be had.But generally some gains > > can be had thru timing increases.If higher octane fuel is to be used all > the > > time then building an engine to suit is where the best gains are to be > had. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Geordie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:43 AM > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > If it's an australian product then it must be good.... Hehehhe > > > Mohit, always use all these additives with a bit a suspicion towards the > > > claims on the packaging. > > > > > > I reckon you're going to get more out of the avgas or toluene than any > > > other additive you put in. You will have to adjust your tuning to suit > > > each different brew of fuel you put in too. Your best shot is to figure > > > out what brew works best with what tuning and then stick to that for > > > your racing. > > > > > > Ie, you might find that on a cocktail of 70% petrol, 20% avgas and 10% > > > toluene you will be able to run 8 degrees more timing without pinging > > > but you might also need to add 40% more fuel to your mixture. This is an > > > example only!! You will need to put your car on a dyno and experiment > > > with your fuels and mixtures. > > > > > > Once you get your tuning and fuel brew right, it'll be a simple matter > > > of filling the car up with Mohit Racing Cocktail fuel, tuning it up to > > > suit and away you go. > > > > > > I have been reading a book which goes into some depth on mixing up your > > > own race fuel, if you can get it the book is called "Forced Induction > > > Performance Tuning" by A. Graham Bell. Maybe someone here can scan that > > > section of the book, I don't own a scanner.. This book is mostly related > > > to turbo/supercharged engines, but the fuel mixing info applies to all > > > engines to a point. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mohit K. Autar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 7:19 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > that was a good one.ok i bought a octane booster also.its a wynn's race > > > formula and it lifts upto 5 points,its a 500ml black bottle.what do you > > > guys think of this.its an australian product. > > > > > > have a nice day. > > > > > > Mohit. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Geordie > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:54 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > > I can just imagine Mohit with a syphon hose and a jerry can sneaking > > > into the airport at night and syphoning out a 747.. Hahahha! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Terry Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 6:26 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > Sounds a bit like Australia in the 70's - getting caught in Aus with a > > > joint is nearly better than with avgas now. (;- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohit K. > > > Autar > > > Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:09 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > good news i got 20 ltrs of avgas.dont ask how and from where but a back > > > door job.this is fiji guys and anything can happen here. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mark krawczuk > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:11 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > aall wot u have to do now is find some one with a pilots > > > liscence......................... mark k > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:29 PM > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > > What Jeff said. Avgas is around 100 octane or a bit more and is leaded > > > > > > > so > > > in > > > > most cases it will be fine for a L series engine, makes them run a tad > > > > > > > hot out the exhaust valves if WOT for extended periods like racing > > > > etc. Hard > > > to > > > > get in Aus legally now, as it banned for most uses except in planes of > > > > > > > course. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 9:19 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mohit, > > > > > > > > australian slang for subaru is soobie :) > > > > > > > > cheers Jeff > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mohit K. > > > > Autar > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:31 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > > > > hi there, > > > > > > > > when you say soobie turbo's,what do you mean by that.also if i use > > > > avgas > > > on > > > > my datsun will it be a good idea. > > > > > > > > will it run better then the unleaded. > > > > > > > > mohit. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Rudd > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:53 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > > > > You're going to need a heap of octane booster to get ULP to at leat 96 > > > > > > > octane so a Datto engine will run half decently. Are there any Soobie > > > Turbos > > > > in Fiji? They need 96 octane - Caltex/Ampol Vortex Gold is the popular > > > > > > > choice in Aus. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohit K. > > > > Autar > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 7:59 AM > > > > To: Membersozdat (E-mail) > > > > Subject: octane rating... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > Just want to know,how to increase the octane rating of the unleaded > > > fuel.We > > > > have bp fuel which is 91 and i dont think its ok for my datsun. > > > > > > > > I need advice from you guys.Have a nice day. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mohit. > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > > > > submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > > > > redistribution of this email > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > > > > submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > > > > redistribution of this email > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > > > submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > > > redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > > > submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > > > redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > > > submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > > > redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
