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Contents of Vol. 19.002 May 28, 2009 1) oyberland, unterland (Hugh Denman) 2) oyberland, unterland (Yankl Falk) 3) song lyrics sought (Joseph Toltz) 4) Turek Peace Movement (Lillian Leavitt) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: May 19, 2009 Subject: oyberland, unterland With reference to Fraynd Mett's query concerning the significance of the terms "oyberland" and "unterland" in terms of Hungarian regional geography [19.001:6], he should see Uriel Weinreich, "Western Traits in Transcarpathian Yiddish" in "For Max Weinreich on His Seventieth Birthday: Studies in Jewish Languages, Literature, and Society," The Hague, 1964, 245-64, where there is a map clarifying just this point on p. 246. Very approximately, "oyberland" corresponds with Slovakia and "unterland" with Transylvania, Maramures and the Transcarpatian Ukraine. Of course, we are dealing here with Hungary as it existed before the First World War. Very little of the relevant territory lies within the current Hungarian frontier. I might add that the territory labeled oyberland in Weinreich's map coincides fairly exactly with what is still referred to as the Felvidek (acute on 2nd e) in not particularly politically-correct Hungarian oral usage even today. Hugh Denman 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: May 18, 2009 Subject: oyberland, unterland In response to Perets Mett's inquiry, here's what I found on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberlander_Jews): Oberlander Jews (also Oberlandish or simply Oberland Jews) are Ashkenazi, Yiddish- and German-speaking Jews originating in the Oberland or higher land western region of Hungary and the district surrounding Bratislava in Slovakia. This is as opposed to Unterlander Jews, who resided in the eastern lower lands on the opposite side of the Danube River and were influenced more by the Hasidic movement. Yankl Falk 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 May, 2009 Subject: song lyrics sought Thank you to all who helped with both songs [Mendele 19.001]. You have made two survivors very happy! I have another song fragment for which I am seeking the full text. Here is the transliterated fragment: "Eyle toldoys noekh, fun bronfn hot men koyekh" Many thanks, Joseph Toltz 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: May 18, 2009 Subject: Turek Peace Movement I am translating a letter from Vilna 1940 that references a pre-war "Turek Peace Movement" in Novi Dvor and a possible meeting with a Doctor Tartakover in the United States, in an attempt to get a visa out of Vilna. Any information to help put this in context would be appreciated. Lillian Leavitt ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol. 19.002 Please do not use the "reply" key when writing to Mendele. Instead, direct your mail as follows: Material for Mendele Personal Notices & Announcements, i.e. announcements of events, commercial publications, etc., always in plain text (no HTML or the like) to: [email protected] (in the subject line write Mendele Personal) Material for postings to Mendele Yiddish literature and language, i.e. inquiries and comments of a non-commercial or publicity nature: [email protected] IMPORTANT: Please include your full name as you would like it to appear in your posting. No posting will appear without its author's name. Submissions to regular Mendele should not include personal email addresses, as responses will be posted for all to read. In order to spare the shamosim time and effort, we request that contributors adhere, when applicable, as closely as possible to standard English punctuation, grammar, etc. and to the YIVO rules of transliteration into Latin letters. A guide to Romanization can be found at this site: http://www.yivoinstitute.org/about/index.php?tid=57&aid=275 All other messages should be sent to the shamosim at this address: [email protected] Mendele on the web: http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~mendele/index.htm To join or leave the list: http://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/mendele _______________________________________________ Mendele mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/mendele
