On Monday 04 June 2012, Marko Saukko wrote:
> On 04.06.2012 17:20, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Monday 04 June 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >> On Monday, June 4, 2012 11:49:41 Marco Martin wrote:
> >>> yeah, seems that connman or networkmanager support is statically linked
> >>> in the packagekit daemon and not a plugin, so doesn't seem possible to
> >>> have both backends compled and installed at runtime :/
> >> 
> >> so here's the next obvious question: why is conman still in Mer? :)
> >> 
> >> it really does not make much sense to have 2 backends mantained unless
> >> there is a significant advantage unique to each one. right now, the only
> >> advantage i know of is that conman is not actively developed? :)
> > 
> > have a packagekit here that uses networkmanager:
> > https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=PackageKit&project=home%
> > 3Amart%3Abranches%3AProject%3AKDE%3ADevel
> > 
> > about connman i think is still alive as part of tizen, but not exactly
> > developed in the open..
> 
> Yes, connman is still used in Tizen. Question: how much more open it
> could be developed?
> 
> Upstream webpage http://connman.net/
> Git tree: http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/connman/connman.git;a=summary
> 
> Also there seems to be work done in Ubuntu as well.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConnMan

this is my bad i didn't knew about it :)
(if there will be work done by at least two players, confidence in it raises a 
bit for sure)

> > personally i think moving to networkmanager at mer level as well would be
> > more future proof, i guess the resiztence at the moment is that the
> > other ui projects have ui only for connman?
> 
> What makes networkmanager more future proof? It has been developed much
> longer, yes, and connman still lacks some of the features sure. But I
> would say that it is getting there. Everything takes time when it is
> started from scratch.
> 
> What is the main thing why Plasma Active people do not want to use
> connman? Is it because of lacking some crucial features at the moment?
> Or because one has done code for network manager that one don't want to
> throw away and redo for connman? Or something else?

a combination of 3 things, familiarity, having something already done ui wise 
and not too much trust in Intel and dependency on tizen parts (i know is sad, 
but is a feeling of if it's happened once it can happen again)

again, i really hope to be wrong on that and that there will be work on it by 
several players.

Cheers,
Marco Martin


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