While I mostly agree with you, I was less talking about PHP as a
language, but more the framework around which it is used.

Consider the approach:

1) Take a standard HTML page
2) Modify it to include some simple PHP (e.g. <%= $myvar %>)
3) Rename the file to .php
4) Upload page.

That's about as low a barrier to entry for a non-programmer as I can
think of.

weepy




On 16 Nov, 10:54, Julian Leviston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMHO basic PHP is very hard to understand, not easy.
>
> Then again, I'm biased... because I think most programming is hard to  
> understand, and awfully suckful. Unfortunately, it's all we have at  
> the moment.
>
> PHP is easy to understand if you've done some C, which isn't terribly  
> easy to understand if you've done NO programming.
>
> Ruby is easy to understand if you've done some smalltalk.
>
> IMHO, smalltalk (and Objective C, and also Ruby) is easier to  
> understand than C in terms of powerful code that actually does  
> something.
>
> IMHO, Ruby and Smalltalk are FAR easier to understand as first  
> languages.
>
> The easiest way to prototype things is modification of template code  
> in-place, or generators (they're somewhat equivalent), in my opinion.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Julian.
>
> On 16/11/2008, at 9:48 PM, weepy wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was reading about your future plans for Merb 1.x
>
> > In particular I was interested about the idea of rapid/easy
> > prototyping and what ideas you had there.
>
> > Ideas that spring to my mind:
>
> > * similarities between very-flat and Sinatra/Camping
> > * basic PHP is very easy to understand and deploy.
> > * similarities between ERB and PHP.
>
> > Interested to see what else you have in mind !
>
> > weepy
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