she is probably bigger than you adn twice as strong. look, to hell with her mother. fine, lock her up. i don't even care. she is stupid cow. indeed!
HOWEVER, when you ask my kid to bare false witness under threat, you are teh true abuser. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being told and doing are to different things. Again proof is needed to > support such an allegation of abuse, more than one witness' testimony. > If there is no proof there is nothing to worry about. > > Certainly 11 changes things. I assumed the kid was older. There is > certainly a huge gap in a child between 11 and 13-16. I would still > contact DFCS and find out why you weren't present. I am pretty sure that > the counselor should have been in the room at least. > > I could see hitting a 16yr old boy with a stick because be stole > something. An 11 year old girl? With a stick? You must be more > complacent than me, I would have called the cops right then and there. > I just can't condone something like that from someone who I don't like > and probably don't trust. > > Like I said I am all about some coporal punishment, hell I've half > jokinlgy argued for Saturday spankings because I know they did something > wrong I just didn't catch them doing it. Hitting an 11 year old with a > stick, that from the description is weighted on one end...... > > -Rolf > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > she is 11. she was told she'd not be allowed to leave until she told > them > > he rmother committed additional abuses. you can't try to coerce a child > > like that to lie. it is sick. perhaps they should offer her an ice > cream > > to say how i sexually abuse her next? > > > > as for hitting a child with a stick, it is not what i would do and i > wonder > > if that is part of the reason for her misbehavior. it is not abuse. she > > has no injury. she was not beaten, just hit. she is a very large and > > powerful child and it does take some force to make an impact on her. if > i > > thought it was abuse, i'd step in myself. the only abuser i see in this > > picture are the government. > > > > i don't like my ex wife. my kid doesn't like her mother. i currently > deal > > with my ex-wife by placating her. my kid deals with her by absolutely > > defying her. a blow with a stick might be exactly what is called for in > > this situation. > > > > the police have informed hte ex wife that she is not allowed to hit the > > child with a stick and it will not happen again. for thousands of years > of > > human existence, the ex wife wouild have been praised. for hte last few > > years, it is a criminal act. the ex wife is not a child abuser, but the > > victim of a fad. > > > > the issue is not what you think of this fad but what you think of a > school > > system and child protective services that now wishes to coerce this child > > into fabricating testimony against her mother. you think hitting with a > > stick is abuse. i think it isn't, but it sin't what i would do myself. > the > > ex wife thinks it is a good method at times. this means my kid needs to > > make up stories about her mother under threat of punishment for not doing > > so? > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Stormfront is *not* my website, winmutt.com is. visit it and I am sure > >> you will see my feelings about neo nazis, racial purists and what not. > >> > >> She was treated as a hostile witness. I didn't say I liked it or that I > >> would want my children to go through but I also think that safety of the > >> child is paramount. Hitting someone with a stick in the arm is abuse not > >> corporal punishment. It's not like your ex slapped her. She picked up a > >> stick and proceeded to hit her child with it. Not exactly mother of the > >> year. I am all for corporal punishment and if needed will send my kids > >> out to pick their own switch but I would *NEVER* pick up a stick and hit > >> them with it. > >> > >> I never got an answer on how old she is. > >> > >> "A gov't employee attacking a defenseless child is only criminal if > >> she's convicted, is that what you said?" > >> > >> I think they did their job. I don't agree with the means but as she was > >> investigating a potentially criminal case of child abuse I think the > >> rules should be a little different and that the investigator should be > >> given some leeway. Usually if the school reports abuse before the other > >> parent does it means they are a culpable party in the abuse. > >> > >> It's not like she was telling her she couldn't go home until she > >> admitted that her dad was a drug dealer and a pimp. Or since you mention > >> the nazis, that he was a jew sympathizer and she would sent to the work > >> camps unless she witnessed to it. We are talking about child abuse, > >> often times the kids will defend the abuser all the way to the end. Does > >> that make it ok for the DFCS person to stop investigating and the abuse > >> to go on? Are you really willing to allow the child abuse to go on over > >> a little badgering? > >> > >> -Rolf > >> > >> > >> Gary Hurst wrote: > >> > >>> he also says that it ok for them to try to coerce false testimony out > of > >>> them because in some cases true testimony might emerge. > >>> > >>> rolf, aren't you teh guy with teh stormfront website? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Rolf wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> It's only criminal if it went to court and wasn't true. What's worse, > a > >>>>> little mental/verbal abuse or missing kids that are really abused? > They > >>>>> need something to get warrants to inspect medical records, the > witness > >>>>> statement of a minor is certainly not enough. If they are able to > >>>>> > >> coerce > >> > >>>>> a kid into saying other things happened and they get the medical > >>>>> documentation to back it up then more power to them. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> What kind of a Nazi freak are you? > >>>> A gov't employee attacking a defenseless child is only criminal if > she's > >>>> convicted, is that what you said? > >>>> Geez. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mitch. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
