It works out that way usually anyway. Read the accident reports and you'll see most of the deaths are people not wearing a seat belt - things like "ejected from vehicle" are common. People flying through the air at 60 mph don't react well when they come to s *sudden* stop against a oak tree.

Sadly, many of those not wearing belts are inexperienced teens who learn about physics the hard way.

LarryT (who won't back out of the driveway without 1st putting my seat belt on)

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From: "Greg Fiorentino" <gf...@dslnorthwest.net>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:25 PM
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ticketable

I agree with you 100% Allan...I think that someone who refuses to wear a
seat belt should not have to pay a fine.  I think he should be given a
choice in court to either pay the fine or to wear a medical bracelet from
then on waiving his right to emergency care.  I don't think our society
should have to pay for his lack of foresight and prudence by squandering our
limited medical resources.  Same way helmets for motorcyclists.

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
'97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke

-----Original Message-----
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ticketable

On the subject of seat belt laws, here in Indiana when they enacted the laws
it was by getting a foot in the door, then a crowbar, and then a ram.

First law only applied to private passenger cars. Taxis, delivery vehicles,
etc. were exempt, as were trucks.  It also only applied to the front seat
passengers.  Also, it was promised that it would never be enforced unless
there was some other offense (speeding, running a stop sign, etc).

Over the years the law kept getting amended and now it applies to all
vehicles, all seats, and you can be pulled over for not wearing a seat belt
even if you've violated no other laws.

Now, I always wear a seat belt anyway, and I think it's a good idea to do
so, but I don't think the government has any business forcing me to do so,
since my choice in this matter affects only me.

So you might say who cares, but this is a great example of how
control-obsessed politicians will keep adding to restrictions and why it's
important to never give them that first foot in the door.

By the way, I went to court last week over the speeding ticket I got back in
July. 35 in a 20, but the 20 zone was marked by only one sign and it had
been vandalized with spray paint, and was in an area where the "default"
limit would have been 30. I don't believe I was even going 35 since it's a pretty curvy road, but it is possible I guess. The officer did not show up, so the charge was dismissed. I had photos of the painted-over sign, data on signs per mile elsewhere in town compared to this area, etc. but didn't have
to present any of that.


Allan


On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:56 +0000, pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
Rotten Cop, pulling you over so he could give you a "Phony" citation for
not wearing a seat belt. And he used his supervision to see this wile you
were driving past at 54mph.

My intended retirement domicile is in Texas, according to the local
newspaper about once every 2 weeks someone is dead or grievously injured
after being ejected from their pick-up truck. No seat belt rule there,
helps to purify the gene pool.


--

Peter Arnold

Windsor, CT

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Haley" <m...@voyager.net>
SNIP
so he could justify pulling me over for a
seat belt fundraiser, before seat belts were a primary offense. He didn't
ticket
me for the 60, it was just a phony excuse for a stop so he could write
the seat
belt for $80.

Mitch.


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