if you wish to learn, it's probably not best to drive jaime to unsubscribe. he's not only a good fella, but has much specialized knowledge. first to drive him off and then to just keep piling on is not stylish
i also got an email from richard, the founder of this list, regarding the endless slander he receives here you guys really act viciously and abnormally and i don't think you see it at all On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Walt Zarnoch <zarnoch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, I'm a nobody with less experience than most list member's pinky toes, > but I won't stand people outright flaming. > > I don't care to know the exact nature of what was going on when I first > joined the list, but it seems to be repeating itself. I don't know why. > I don't care who started it, or their reasons. > > Are not we all above this? Does everything now devolve to people acting > like > rabid dogs? > > I joined this list to learn, not to get my inbox accosted with vitriolic > hate. One would think that people who take pride in owning or working on a > Benz would be better suited at turning the other cheek and acting congenial > to their fellow man, especially during this season. > > Walt > On Dec 19, 2010 12:49 AM, "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > you and penoff are identical cousins maybe? > > > > the fools have already driven jaime off the lists. what more do you want > > from him? he's left. everyone here must be like you? > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Hendrik & Fay <heni...@ozemail.com.au > >wrote: > > > >> Yes I saw you where back and it seems back to your usual way of > expressing > >> yourself. > >> > >> I reckon I still have the right to express thoughts on this list or > perhaps > >> you are now in charge and only mad rants, directed at whole sections of > list > >> members, are allowed (ie. the haters and ignorant ones) and the hating > >> ignorant ones are especially going to feel the wrath of Jabba the hutt > and > >> the ueber master of automotive knowledge, or has he had his dummy spit, > >> grabbed his bat and joined a more intelligent MB forum, where they > >> appreciate the 140 and it's gadgets and deride any MB that cost less > than > >> 20K to buy. > >> > >> Now perhaps you would be good enough to point out the rule that posts, > of > a > >> certain age, cannot be commented upon. The original post from the master > was > >> on the 13th of December and unfortunately I have been busy, thus unable > to > >> catch up on all the posts sent by the members. > >> > >> There are lots of things wrong with me but I think the one you are > >> referring to is the one where I am not happy for a list member to call > the > >> list (or some members thereof) ignorant because they declared the 140 to > be > >> a step back for Mercedes, or at the very least contain some very > expensive > >> components that fail in a time frame not usual for a Benz product. > >> > >> Perhaps Jaime could get a job at Daimler as a customer liaison > executive, > >> in charge of telling them that they are ignorant to be unhappy that > their > MB > >> is spending a lot of time in the workshop and the reason the MB's of the > mid > >> 90's to late 00's are less reliable than the cars they replaced is that > this > >> is how automotive development works. "We tried to build a more > sophisticated > >> machine on a smaller budget and it just didn't work out quite the way it > was > >> supposed to but that's OK with us, we get to sell some very expensive > bits > >> to you ignorant fools." > >> > >> Hendrik > >> who is ignorant and hates some things, like machines that I can't repair > >> > >> Gary Hurst wrote: > >> > >>> can't you guys leave anything alone? he's unsubscribed already and it's > >>> been a while. wtf is wrong with you? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hendrik & Fay <heni...@ozemail.com.au > >>> >wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Not sure if I should say anything, I may be accused of being ignorant > by > >>>> the new high master of knowledge. > >>>> However being a daredevil I shall try and sneak some stupidity past > the > >>>> overlord of automotive development information, guess if he catches me > >>>> I'll > >>>> cop a beating with the workshop manual of the W140 (and that's gotta > >>>> hurt, > >>>> especially if it includes the electronic section). > >>>> > >>>> Anyway I think the gripe the ignorant so and so's have is fair enough. > >>>> The > >>>> issue being that there are a lot of MB only parts on that car that > fail > >>>> eventually and trying to find a part out of a wreck is a lottery, > >>>> considering that the part may fail again. > >>>> Automotive development is good when it is taken one step after another > >>>> but > >>>> the leap between the 126 and 140 was mighty and a bit too far. As a > side > >>>> note the W220 also suffered from reliability problems due to more > >>>> leaping. > >>>> Technology is great when it works but when it doesn't and costs a > fortune > >>>> to fix it is a pain. > >>>> I have heard stories of cars being wrecked because the accident > damaged > >>>> electrical equipment that is too expensive too replace, or damaged > >>>> electrical lines which in turn damaged the various computers that are > in > >>>> a > >>>> car. > >>>> > >>>> Hendrik > >>>> who is hiding from the grand high overlord master of all things > Mercedes > >>>> > >>>> Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Wow, the ignorance on this list has reached an all time high. > >>>>> > >>>>> You folks really haven't a clue about how automotive development > >>>>> works, and why an S class is designed the way they are. Not a clue. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jaime > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
