You can look on Apple's support site where they have some bulletins covering 
battery usage and what constitutes a "cycle".

The one I had that failed cacked with less than 100 cycles in two years. They 
replaced it under AppleCare.

Dan

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On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:

> Dan Penoff <lwb...@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
>> It's cycles more than chronological time...
>> 
>> Apple guarantees them for sometime like 300 cycles...
> 
> What is a cycle?  Is it a full discharge/full recharge, or any amount of
> discharge followed by any amount of recharge?
> 
> Allan
> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Already tried the power manager reset; the battery icon revereted to
>>> "plugged in" for a few minutes, then returned to the "X" symbol.  So I
>>> think the battery is dead.
>>> 
>>> I've ordered one from OWC.  The current one is also an OWC battery; got
>>> it at least 3 years ago, probably closer to 4, so I guess that's a
>>> pretty good lifespan.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff <lwb...@yahoo.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> I had one on my MacBook Pro that cacked with no warning. Not realizing the 
>>>> battery had failed, it got unplugged while sleeping and as a result it 
>>>> goobered up my hard drive and I had to do a complete restore.
>>>> 
>>>> Hence my warming about replacing it immediately.
>>>> 
>>>> All of Peter's suggestions are certainly worth a try-nothing to lose there.
>>>> 
>>>> MacDan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Very likely.  You could try a power manager reset with the battery 
>>>>> installed, though.  How depends on the PB -- a Titanium has a pushbutton 
>>>>> under the keyboard up by the power button.  Unplug the AC and lift the 
>>>>> keyboard, press the button, re-install the keyboard, and plug it back in. 
>>>>>  When you start it up the clock will be wrong and if you are lucky, the 
>>>>> battery will charge.  On an aluminum PB, with it plugged in, hold the 
>>>>> power button down for at least 5 seconds,  Should beep and spin the fans 
>>>>> up.  Release power key and press again to re-start, should work like the 
>>>>> TIBook.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If that doesn't do anything for you, get a new one -- it's possible to 
>>>>> re-cell one, but you don't save any money, as I've discovered.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Li-ion batteries acquire increasing internal resistance as they age, 
>>>>> resulting in a voltage drop when the current draw goes up, and eventually 
>>>>> you just can't get anything out of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a care as the damned things are STILL fully charged and will catch 
>>>>> fire if shorted, even if the computer won't recognize them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
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