<< I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial...>> I agree, as long as I have the last word in this dialogue, Andrew!
Guns ARE dangerous! But they are not more dangerous than hammers, knives, baseball bats, cars and other objects that kill and maim many when misused. BTW I am not impressed with your incorrect and inappropriate use of the Latin term reductio ad absurdum-- NOT absurdo. The toothpick and banana reference is indeed absurd, but the Wikipedia reference I gave below (which you no doubt didn't bother to look at) lists attacks against schoolchildren WITHOUT firearms which actually took place in a country with strict gun control. These events prove the plausibility of the argument that it is the human being that is the threat, not a particular object. Citing facts does not constitute a reductio ad absurdum argument. You need to work on your critical thinking skills! There is always something that can be used as a weapon. I have been trained to use a Bic pen or even a NY Times as a deadly weapon. Keeping those persons who would use violence against others off the streets is the better answer. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home What's "funny" is that some people think guns are not at fault - ever - for anything bad/evil/violent. They are mere inanimate objects, no more dangerous than a toothpick or banana, since someone somewhere is evil enough to do great harm with any ordinary object. That's what I call reductio ad absurdo. I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial and get back to CARS and DIESELS, and limit OT conversations according to the rules of the list that bar political topics. This is a rule that the listmeister currently refuses to enforce, perhaps because he happens to be a passionate advocate against any form of gun control and most of the list members are of a like mind. RIP. . On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino <gf...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote: > I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of > such heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm > of some > sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. > If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would > be very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where > firearms are tightly controlled. > > But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932 > 012%29 > > 25 dead and 115 injured! > > I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a > hammer is absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as > surely as an AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. > But a quick death might be kinder to a child and his family than a > lifetime of severe disability from permanent brain damage. > > The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating > firearms! > > Best regards to all, > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:14 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home > > Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each > kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a > rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am > beginning to understand your line of thinking.... > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
