101 and 280 seem to move pretty well.  I've been through the Bay Area at
least several times and only hit traffic once or twice.  I've never managed
to get through LA without sitting in traffic.  The 10, 205, 405 ... all
bad.  As they say of the 405 - 38 miles, 2-1/2 hours.  It really doesn't
clear up until you get across the San Diego County line or out into the
desert.



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:

> San Francisco is bad, especially on the peninsula. Takes you a good 2
> hours to go maybe 30 miles, and that's not even at rush hour.
>
> Dan
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Brian Toscano <brian.tosc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city.
> >
> > DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC.
> >
> > Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major
> > traffic problems.  Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam
> at
> > 2AM.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM, OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've driven both as a tourist with only a map, and didn't find DC as
> bad as
> >> NYC. I think Dallas might be even worse. I've never driven in the LA
> area,
> >> but don't think it could be any better.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am saying that the DC traffic patterns are actually very user
> friendly
> >> IF
> >>> you know how to take advantage of them.  In other words, traffic here
> >> isn't
> >>> as bad as the rest of the world seems to believe.
> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >> 2013 F150
> >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG
> >> 1957 C182A
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