i don't get it. i have 10.5.8 here. seems to work fine
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > I wouldn't say that Apple forces us to upgrade, but the "churn" for their > OS releases seems to be getting a lot shorter combined with far less legacy > support than they used to. > > It's the taking up the legacy support from newer OS' that is doing us in. > You're either stuck on the last rev of the OS your hardware will support or > you have to buy something newer. The alternative is to find a hack. > > Interestingly, the guys who have written the boot loaders and firmware > hacks to go from 32 to 64 bit EFI say that the changes are stupid simple. > Makes everyone wonder why Apple didn't do it themselves. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > i don't know what you are saying here. i start this conversation with > how > > i use my 8 year old IBM chip mac all day every day for every thing. > others > > chime in with similar sentiments and even older machines only to be > > informed by you that apple forces us to upgrade against our will every > five > > years. kinda silly, no? > > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I think its unfair to say that I hate Macs, I think Apple makes robust > >> hardware but I also think the love that the average Mac fanboy gives is > >> missplaced. > >> Face it, Apple is going to break your wallet every 5 years or so. If you > >> want to keep up with the rest of the world (for surfing or running new > >> software or whatever) Apple will absolutely force you to upgrade at 5 > years > >> MAX because they'll abandon you. > >> > >> Has MIcrosoft done that? Absolutely NOT. WinXP is still seeing > reasonably > >> good support for an OS thats 11 years old. In that time Apple has put > out 7 > >> or 8 versions of OS 10 and dropped support for who knows how many > >> platforms. When Microsoft leaves you its just because no new drivers get > >> written for your hardware, maybe somebody in the wild can work something > >> up. When Apple leaves you the OS detects your hardware platform and > DENYS > >> you. > >> > >> I know I can get adapters and really the two that gall me are firewire > and > >> an RJ45 for Ethernet, I'd forgotten there was an HDMI port. Two years > ago > >> Apple told us Firewire 800 was the bee's knees and we should all invest > in > >> it, now its "oh no, you really wanted Thunderbolt..." > >> > >> Windows 7 is a very good OS (8 sucks but that was to be expected) and is > >> as stable as 10.6+ and has much better third party support. Software > >> support for Macs will always be limited because Apple treats third party > >> developers poorly. I've now worked for 3 third party developers > (admittedly > >> 2 were competitors) and apple seems to honestly enjoy pulling the rug > out > >> from under them. > >> Win7 is more configurable and gives way more kernel level support. > >> BTW, want to boot a PC to Linux on a key drive as a live disk (as I'm > >> doing right now)? Easy. Want it on a Mac? Can't be done, Apple doesn't > want > >> you doing that... > >> > >> I'm not saying Windows is a perfect OS but its a big world and there are > >> choices for everybody. > >> > >> I did spend some time at Frys the other day looking at the $250 > >> Chromebook. Nice little laptop for the money... > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> > >> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 09:00:23 -0700 > >> From: Alex Chamberlain <apchamberl...@gmail.com> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question > >> Message-ID: > >> <CABHyH=YC6GZxcbU5zp=qpibdbgskfhouvqzja6po2gj7pgf...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >>> On Oct 29, 2013 8:42 AM, "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> t I'm starting to think my Retina > >>> Macbook Pro was a mistake, > >>> everything about it is a pain in the ass, > >>> no optical drive, no firewire, stupid > >>> external monitor port nobody else > >>> uses. > >> > >> You can get converters to HDMI and FireWire easily enough. The ports on > >> the MBP are going to be the next standards and like it or not Apple is > >> leading the way as they did with USB and FireWire in the '90s and '00s. > >> > >> Or are you just trolling? We already know you hate Macs, Curt. > >> > >> Honestly I can't imagine why anyone defends Microsoft or the Wintel > >> ecosystem. The only reasonable responses to Windows range from disgust > to > >> indifference. Anyone who actually likes Windows has a screw loose. > >> > >> Alex > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars > > > > * > > *www.BuyEUROparts.com* > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
