Unless I am doing a full fluid and filter change, I am pretty happy with a 
drain and fill, then run for 2500 miles, drain and fill again with a new to me 
purchase.    Mobil 1 ATF

clay



On Jul 26, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> There is one system by which the fluid gets forced through the system 
> backwards, I've heard that that system can damage transmissions. Seems legit, 
> but flushing in the normal direction doesn't seem like it'd hurt anything.
> 
> -Curt
> 
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> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT-ish Trans flush.
> 
> 
> I take exception to this statement.
> 
> If flushing were such a bad thing, there would be literally tens of thousands 
> of failed transmissions out there.
> 
> I hear talk of "fluid shock" on occasion as well, and find this just as 
> bogus.  That is described as the condition where one drains and refills a 
> transmission and the lack of "dirty" fluid full of old material causes the 
> transmission or valve body to fail.
> 
> Think about this logically:
> 
> Dealers, indies and others have historically drained and replaced fluid in 
> slushboxes for years.  If there was the potential for damage or failure be 
> replacing the fluid or flushing there's no way they would be doing it, for 
> fear of having to buy the customer a new transmission.
> 
> I've had a couple of non-MB transmissions flushed by competent independent 
> mechanics.  The last one was the wife's 2005 Mazda 6, which was flushed at 
> the factory interval of 75k.
> 
> It's worked perfectly since it was done.
> 
> Some claim that by flushing or doing a complete drain and refill you take 
> friction material that was floating around in the system and "helping" the 
> clutches and bands to continue working.
> 
> Bogus.
> 
> Most of that material, not all, ends up in the filter.
> 
> I had the discussion about "fluid shock", which is the procedure you 
> recommend to prevent such a condition, with a 20+ year MB line mechanic at my 
> local dealership.  He said that in his tenure he has never heard of such a 
> thing, and that they regularly drain and refill transmissions all the time 
> without ever encountering a failure.
> 
> He thought it was funny.
> 
> Just my $0.02.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Do you want to replace the transmission?
>> If Yes the do a flush if No the Drain replace the filter run it around 5000 
>> miles and do it again.
>> That will get most of the crud out of the TC.
>> This comes form my buddy whose shop works VW's along with MB's & BMW's.
>> Factory trained Tech's for each car line.
>> 
>> Russ W.
>> On 7/26/2014 15:30, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Folks.I have been driving my daughters old VW Jetta 2004 175K mi. and it 
>>> seemed to me that it wasn't shifting quite the way it should.Bought a 
>>> filter and VW spec. oil and went at it. Jacked up and levelled the car and 
>>> drained the consomme from the pan.The oil had a slight burnt smell and was 
>>> light brown. The trans has probably never been serviced before, by the 
>>> appearance of the fasteners and the fill plug.Cleaned everything, changed 
>>> the filter and filled with 3.2 qts of ATF, road test good.As the torque 
>>> converter was not drained only part of the olde fluid was replaced.Q. What 
>>> is the current feeling about using a service to flush the transmission to 
>>> clean and replace all of the fluid?  And who would you recommend?
>>> TIA
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