Oh my lord. So they forgot to hook it up. Wow.

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> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:34 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I inspected a $500 k+ house here in Goldsboro, NC, 'bout 20 years ago that 
> had been occupied for about 5 years.  At a shower in one of the 1F bathrooms, 
> I directed my flashlight beam into the shower drain and looked directly at 
> muddy ground under the house.  Under the house, I found the drain trap and 
> other pieces of PVC pipe that would have completed the connection just lying 
> on top of a pier nearby.  As indicated by amount of water under the house, 
> the shower had been in regular use.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk
> 
> 
>> Maybe I should just cut a hole in the floor and stick the hose down there 
>> and just let it drain under the house. Many years ago we used to live in a 
>> house in the country when I was a kid and the washing machine was on a 
>> separate drain pipe that just went out back and drained into the pasture.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wilton - do you make house calls?  I'm pretty sure my DW hookup is
>>> incompatible with the plumbing codes of any country in the first, second or
>>> third worlds.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Then, you must have an up loop to at least highest possible water level in
>>>> the sink - usually touching underside of cabinet top by the sink or
>>>> underside of sink at cabinet top level.
>>>> 
>>>> Additional air gap not required here, either.
>>>> 
>>>> Wilton
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you mean the air gap thing no, they are not required here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have an anti-siphon vent on it?  I have had one with and two
>>>>>> without, never noticed any issue either way.  Might be a local code 
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --R
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/6/16 10:44 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> Kaleb,
>>>>>>> I just checked my Maytag installation which works with no problems. The
>>>>>>> drain line comes out the bottom, no up loops, and goes into the kitchen
>>>>>>> sink drain "before" the trap. Therefore, the trap prevents any gases or
>>>>>>> odors getting back into the DW, just like traps work in other parts of 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> house. I think this straight line hookup allows faster/better water 
>>>>>>> drain,
>>>>>>> while preventing material or odors from getting back into the DW. Mine
>>>>>>> could have been hooked into the garbage disposal, but was not which I'm
>>>>>>> happy with...less stuff in the disposal to cause it problems. BTW, I'm
>>>>>>> still running the original disposal after 17 years.
>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>> Roger Hale
>>>>>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>>>>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>>>>>> 770-267-0850
>>>>>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>>>>>> 
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