I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled and used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site prep and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the Breeder Reactor as it was called.

One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the waste we have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we were building.

But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50 years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue what's in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we vote on it....

LarryT

Chester Va


On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Great question.

I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the government
and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite nicely. It
is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.

After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material, with a
handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and..... we have no place to
"dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
Sooooooooooo...

Where?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we just
screw it up with government regulation?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!

-------------
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
however....
that has to be answered first...

Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric
vehicles
that are going to "take over how the world drives"?

The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it that
are
over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind
storm..
the grid goes down.
What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid load
of
even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is the
lead
time to get approval for a new power plant, distribution lines? etc etc
et
al.

Electric car/ hybrid is a grand scheme... but it's missing a whole lot
of
pieces to really make it work.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I'd never heard of that Honda Clarity either, but I think that
concept
(plug-in hybrid) will be the long term winner.  Plug the car in at
home
to
charge during the night, then use all-electric power for the short
trip
to/from work.  Gasoline (or better yet a diesel) engine that kicks in
to
both drive the car and charge the batteries so the range is actually
useful
and hurricane evacuation or a long road trip is possible.

Now make them EMP-proof, un-hackable so the roosians or chinee don't
do
me
in, and designed so that if the battery pack fails, the car will
still
function on fossil fuels, and it is a car that I might consider in
twenty
years or so.

-------------
Max
Charleston SC
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