https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucAryeV1Vr0

Here is an example youtube video of how it was done "back in the day" with
low compression diesel engines, slow crank speeds, and "grunt starters".....

"We've come a long way baby".... so to speak.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> That certainly makes sense.    So my math method appears to be off by a
> factor of 1.75 or so?   I kept mulling that over and came to the [wrong]
> conclusion about multiplying the stated compression time the atmospheric
> pressure and failed to consider the heat needed?  Now that you mention it,
> there are so many variables at play it must be a much more complex formula
> than I tried to make it..
>
> Thanks for the explanation....
>
> Larry ---
>
>
> On 06/19/2018 2:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Diesel engine is a "compression ignition" engine, so to fire the fuel/air
>> charge it must raise the temperature of the charge to a point at or above
>> the flash point of the fuel/air charge, so the engine "lights off".
>>
>> Typical compression charge temps necessary to hit flash point for diesel
>> is
>> 400 degrees F.
>> Ambient air temp plays a part in reaching that flash point, thus, glow
>> plugs.
>> Crank speed is another factor.. thus, the need for a strong battery.
>> Next is compression condition of the engine.
>>
>> You can put a hair dryer in the intake, add a booster battery... but if
>> you
>> have low compression... very hard to start..
>>
>> >From my experience, the magic happens best between 390 and 420 psi on a
>> hot
>> engine compression test.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of what an engines compression should be, I always thought it was
>>> the compression ration X atmospheric pressure.  So a engine with 18:1
>>> (as a
>>> diesel might be) would look for 18X14.7 (approx) = 264psi or so.  While a
>>> gas engine at 7:1 would be ~103.  Is this logical?
>>>
>>> LarryT
>>>
>>> 91 300D (RIP ??)
>>>
>>> 06 E350 (POS also dead)
>>>
>>> 06 Ford Explorer
>>>
>>> 74 911
>>>
>>> 66 MGB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/18/2018 1:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:Speaking of
>>>
>>> Seller seems WAY too enthusiastic.  Buyer beware.
>>>> 264
>>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Depends on cranking speed amongst other criteria.
>>>>
>>>>> Fred.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Closer to 400 or over in my mind
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What should they be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>>>>>> Wickford RI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2018 10:21 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300SD **VERY CLEAN**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1979-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mercedes-benz-300sd-very/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6612681421.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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