Im sure real akebono are fine. I think the point of the cert is to distinguish real ones from counterfeit ones
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 1:16 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing that article regarding ECE R90. I wonder if the > Akebono ceramic pads have that certification? Have to look that up later. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On October 25, 2018 3:53:02 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >Interesting. Seems unlikely that the pads are in wrong, but never say > >never. I changed all the calipers, so this isnt just a brake job. > > > >I found this european cert thing in an email from autohaus (finally got > >the > >500e master cyl today btw). 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The results were that when you pressed break > >peddle > >> it would bend the brake pad which acted like a spring, when you > >released > >> the break peddle it would push calipers back in. The brakes felt > >like they > >> needed bleed and would "pump up". They replaced master cylinder > >twice > >> before they got me to look at it. > >> I asked: > >> "Did it stop before you did the brake job?" > >> "Yes" > >> "Then let's check that you did the brake job correctly..." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > I note that a decision has been made to get a replacement but I > >will > >> > comment on this anyway. > >> > I had the master give up on my 115 300D. I was able to get a > >rebuild kit > >> > but unable to put it together to my satisfaction and ended up > >getting a > >> > replacement anyway. > >> > Not sure how this will relate to newer Mercedes, but for my > >vintage, it > >> > appears that the original rebuild kits came with a thin sleeve that > >one > >> > put the parts into and then slid into the bore and then removed. I > >did > >> > not get the sleeve with my kit and was unable to come up with > >anything > >> > that would permit me to slide the new parts in without risking > >damage to > >> > the new seals. I looked around for thin tubing and made an attempt > >with > >> > a wrapped piece of thin plastic but to no avail. I could have > >pushed > >> > them in without the sleeve and waited to see if they had managed to > >slip > >> > in without damage but was reluctant to re-assemble and find out > >that I > >> > still had brake problems, so I did not do that. I gave in and > >ordered > >> > the whole thing which is what I should have done at the outset. The > >car > >> > was out of service for a month while I horsed around with this > >issue. > >> > > >> > RB > >> > > >> > On 21/10/2018 2:15 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> > > So I have pressure bled the 124 wagon brakes about three times > >now and > >> no > >> > > air comes out any more. I drained at least a pint each caliper > >this > >> time. > >> > > No leaks from any of the calipers when pumping pedal with nipples > >> tight. > >> > > > >> > > This is a non-asr car. > >> > > > >> > > Pedal will pump up but then goes to the floor with sustained > >pressure. > >> If > >> > > you pump it up then let up for a few seconds and push again it > >goes > >> way > >> > > down before any resistance. Probably not going to stop the car at > >the > >> > foot > >> > > of my driveway. > >> > > > >> > > My thought is to replace or rebuild the master cylinder, because > >maybe > >> > the > >> > > pedal was pushed too far down while bleeding. > >> > > > >> > > Is the collective wisdom to use ATE only, or is meyle just as > >good (or > >> > > others)? 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