Just to be clear, there is manufacturing carbon costs in producing those solar cells as well. TANSTAAFL. Not saying they aren't a great way to produce power, just that they are not free of other impacts.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 3:51 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well sorry I guess it was always going to be a hot button type subject. > > Anyway yes there is no energy source devoid of environmental impact. > Lithium ion for instance has a big carbon footprint. Maybe 25% co2 savings > over diesel for the life of the car, including manufacturing. Because the > electric car started out in a carbon hole from the battery manufacturing. > > My reasons for liking electric cars are excellent performance, low > maintenance and never going to the gas station. I dont have a problem with > subsidies; reasonable people may disagree on what is proper to subsidize > but suffice it to say there are many I do not favor also. > > I also like the notion of using the light from the sky to generate my > electricity vs. Stuff dug up out of the ground and injected into the > atmosphere. Seems like we might need the stuff in the ground for more > important stuff later in history. If we can import the energy for free from > outer space for not much more money, that seems like a better deal. And I > like the idea of self sufficiency and being able to own the means of > production rather than buy the product from others forever and ever. > > Anyway thanks as usual for all the interesting perspective. Happy Dieseling > for 2019. My next move will be to an om648 swapped w123 I think. > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 1:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: > > > The solution is to only drive your electric car when there is enough sun > > and wind to charge it's batteries, not have electric heat or lights in > your > > home, no computers at work, or office lights. But.... have zero pollution > > from energy production. > > > > Alternatively, accept that humans are a messy bunch, who don't clean up > > after themselves, and make the best of what life has to offer. > > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 12:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > So the solution to evil China ias is for the USA to burn MORE coal so > > our > > > air can be as dirty as theirs? > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 9:14 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > China was actually bringing 2 CFPPs online per week for awhile a > coupla > > > > years ago, burning dirty coal with no emissions controls. Country is > > > power > > > > hungry (in more ways than electricity) as it makes the Great Leap > > > Forward. > > > > > > > > --R > > > > Sent from iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Jan 1, 2019, at 12:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'd be shocked if they > > > > > are literally building one Coal Fired power plant a week. Makes no > > > sense. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
