Humans are curious, especially curious about human death. Where someone got infected and later that person died, the "where" "how" and "what" killed them are what we want to know. Many people die in the hospital, knowing that doesn't scratch the itch. Knowing where they were and how they got infected, that is more important to me and I suspect most humans.
Another interesting fact about this disease: many of the infections occur in clusters in households where people are locked down / social distancing. I suspect stigma, fear of treatment and belief that there is no treatment / no cure are keeping people at home too long, and then when they go to the hospital or emergency room, if they are not "sick enough" they get sent right back home with orders to self quarantine. These actions pretty much ensure that everyone or most of the people in that house get infected. ------------- Max Charleston SC On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Karl, > No argument with any of your points. > Here's my point: If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital > before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths? > If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a > day or two. Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths? > Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing > nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population > numbers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Karl Wittnebel <atypical...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers > > What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital. > > There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are > somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death > certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to > do > that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so > there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in > hospital > have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses. > > The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death > certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The > hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia > from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls > casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these > ideas originate outside the US in many cases. > > Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted. > A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People > were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could > not do tests. > > On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Yet another distortion of the numbers: If a nursing home patient in > > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not > > recorded as a nursing home death. > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
