Was FEMA activated for any of the past pandemics? What was different about this pandemic that rated FEMA to be activated?
The main issue that I see is that we relied on a terribly flawed model at the start, and were operating without a clear understanding of the virus, and then the media began stoking the fear, and in every way that the President tried to lead, he was viciously attacked and resisted, called a racist and mocked. ------------- Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I can’t speak for Karl, but from what I’ve seen the places that were the > least affected were those that were aggressive about testing and contact > tracing as soon as things started. We may not be able to cure this > currently, but if we can accurately track the infections and those exposed > to it, we could control the spread far better than we currently have. > > FEMA has mobilization protocols for events such as this and they even > practice for it, but they weren’t mobilized nor involved for the most part, > other than being directed to intercept or impound supplies for states and > private entities for Federal use. FEMA also has very close coordination > with state, local and tribal government entities that allows them to > mobilize on short notice and with clearly defined framework and protocols > for a response to the event. > > Look up: > > NDMS (National Disaster Medical System) > NRCC (National Response Coordination Center) > DMAT (Disaster Medical Assistance Teams) > > I work with and have been trained as a part of my job to interact and > respond with FEMA for such events, so I’m very familiar with what could be > done and how it would be managed. No one ever gave the order or provided > direction. This is the direct responsibility of the office of the President > to DHS, under which FEMA acts. Period. > > -D > > > > On Jun 14, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Karl, Your comments stimulate many questions in my mind. > > As individuals. What should we be doing that we are not doing > (behavior, supplements, etc)? > > Specifically what National leadership do you mean (CDC, POTUS, > legislators)? > > Does National leadership have jurisdiction or do state/local > authorities have jurisdiction? > > ...What has National leadership failed to do? > > Is contact tracing really viable (considering the virus was widespread > before we knew it was here)? > > Why were/are we (the US) so slow with tests, treatments, etc. > > How does this all end? Do we all get it eventually? Does it die out? > > What are we proles to make of the flip-flop guidance from the experts > (masks, isolate indoors, etc.)? > > Who can we believe? So much seems politically driven, even medical > "experts". > > I'm an 70+ year old asthmatic and SWMBO is in her 80s with heart > issues so we are hermits, mostly. > > Thanks for any insights, > > Scott (a skeptic) > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > >> > >> It isnt really a balance. The shut down was just to buy time, and it > worked, but > >> at tremendous cost. The basics of mask wearing, testing and contact > tracing to > >> isolate and quarantine positives and their contacts involve relatively > minimal > >> cost, and no threat to civil liberties. And this works. Iceland never > shut down at > >> all. They just tested lots of people from the first reported case > onward, and > >> had a team of 50 people testing and tracing the contacts and telling > them to > >> stay home for two weeks. They have close to zero daily new cases. That > is all > >> we need to do nationally, but everybody is too busy whining to get on > board > >> and there is no real leadership at the national level. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> The balance that is the main challenge is how to maintain an economy, > >>> allow personal rights, and mitigate disease spread. Everyone has the > >>> answer depending on various orientations but none of them seem to > >>> strike the balance effectively. I have just kinda decided to go about > >>> life, take some precautions, but recognizing sooner or later getting > >>> infected is a high probability no matter what. A vaccine is a long > >>> time away, if it would even be effective > >>> > >>> --FT > >>> > >>> On 6/13/20 11:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> Our numbers are still rising in this part of the country. With > >>>> little to > >>> no > >>>> testing we will probably never know the full extent of the disease. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Still pretty hard to really prove that data isn't it? 100,000+ > >>>>> deaths > >>> in > >>>>> the US in 4 months is 3x+ what the flu would get over twice that > period. > >>>>> It'll take a long time before we antibody test enough people to > >>>>> really prove those numbers. > >>>>> Based on how the US numbers continue to inch down I'm thinking that > >>> having > >>>>> a bad "early" COVID season might be a good thing for our later > results. > >>>>> Brazil's numbers are terrible and rising and thats after having > >>>>> very low numbers in the initial 4 months. > >>>>> -Curt > >>>>> > >>>>> On Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:20:37 PM EDT, Max Dillon via > >>>>> Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. According to the latest immunological and serological studies, > >>>>> the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1%[ > >>>>> https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/] and thus in the > >>>>> range of a strong seasonal influenza[ > >>>>> https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/en/publications/covid-19] (flu). > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general > >>> population > >>>>> of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car > >>>>> ride > >>> to > >>>>> > >> work[https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1]. > >>> The > >>>>> risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild > >>>>> or > >>> no > >>>>> symptoms were not taken into account. > >>>>> > >>>>> Max Dillon > >>>>> Charleston SC > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> -- > >>> --FT > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
