It’s probably a lost art. 

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> On Aug 24, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The Village of Kohler, built around the turn of the last century, has lots 
> of houses with slate roofs. Many of those are probably approaching 100 years 
> of age if not older. When you consider how difficult of an environment 
> Wisconsin is, that speaks for the durability of the material, for sure. I 
> wonder how hard it is to find someone who works on them?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here in old New England we still have some slate roofs around. Those are 
>> real honest 100 year roofs. Then with a little maintenance they're good for 
>> another 100 years. Back in the '80s a lot of houses converted to asphalt 
>> shingles, now I'd bet some of those people are wishing they'd just fixed a 
>> few broken slates...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020, 9:23:04 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve seen them done here and they use the continuous roll stuff as well, or 
>> precut most of the pieces off site and truck them to the site. Cost is about 
>> double that of a composition (shingle) roof from what I’ve heard, however, 
>> that pays in the long run between the life of the roof and savings on 
>> insurance.
>> 
>> Never understood the clay tile stuff. Seems like it would be a PITA to 
>> maintain and repair, not to mention needing more substantial structural 
>> members to support it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Aug 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its the insulation that keeps them quiet. When you get into Maine you see a 
>>> lot more of them and in Arostook county almost all new roofs are metal. The 
>>> amish put them on, they show up with the metal in a giant roll like wire 
>>> for telephone poles comes on and cut to fit so there are no horizontal 
>>> seams mid-roof.
>>> When we had our roof done I looked into metal but with no amish here the 
>>> price was outrageous. Asphalt shingles were less than half the cost.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>>   On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 9:33:11 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Aren't metal roofs,noisy? We don't see them on houses here on New England.
>>> Only garages.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 9:27 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How do you like the metal roofs?
>>>> 
>>>> I have been thinking about doing that when my asphalt shingle roof needs
>>>> replacing (soon, it's 22 years old, and I've already had to patch a leak
>>>> around a skylight in the living room). But some of the installations
>>>> I've seen look cheap and "industrial" for want of a better word.
>>>> 
>>>> My other thought has been composite tiles that look like spanish tile. I
>>>> really like that look but the cost of real tile is quite a lot and I'm
>>>> not sure if a normal truss roof would take the weight if it wasn't built
>>>> for that originally.
>>>> 
>>>> Allan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> 
>>>> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> Our homeowner's insurance includes the house, detached garage, well
>>>> house,
>>>>> guest house (was a shop), and hangar. When I called to report a roof leak
>>>>> that was staining the ceiling in the bedroom a couple of months after a
>>>>> hailstorm, State Farm sent an appraiser who inspected everything, all the
>>>>> roofs. He determined that the house roof was OK, the leak was from an
>>>>> poorly sealed standpipe, but did find that all the other roofs had hail
>>>>> damage, so paid to replace them all. That included the 2000 sq. ft.
>>>> hangar
>>>>> with foam sprayed on the underside of the roof. By spraying the outside
>>>> of
>>>>> the hangar roof with foam and latex paint of some sort, we had enough
>>>> money
>>>>> left over to re-roof the house. All the roofs are now metal - which
>>>> reduced
>>>>> our premium some 20% or so (I don't remember exactly, it might have been
>>>>> more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect they’re looking at your county appraiser’s records to get
>>>> things
>>>>>> like age, square footage, etc. It’s entirely possible they’re including
>>>> the
>>>>>> cost of your outbuilding, too. That or there could be mistakes in your
>>>>>> property appraiser’s records - always good to check every year or two.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I say that from experience, as the house we built in Wisconsin had a
>>>> room
>>>>>> added to it by a third party appraiser the city hired when we had a
>>>>>> reassessment. He didn’t do a physical inspection, he just did a “drive
>>>> by”.
>>>>>> We challenged this and found that he had boogered up so many other
>>>> people’s
>>>>>> appraisals that the city ended up firing him and hiring a new company
>>>> that
>>>>>> did it right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No they don’t care as long as they get paid off. These insurance
>>>>>> companies plug in some sort of number they claim is the cost to rebuilt
>>>> the
>>>>>> house based one some sort of calculation they come up with.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 22:12:58 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I ran a couple of online quotes and cheapest I came up with so far
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> Liberty Mutual.  It was around $600-$1k cheaper depending on
>>>>>>>>> deductible.  I have not tried State Farm yet.  The problem is USAA
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> all these others put a rebuild value WAY higher than what we paid
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> what I figure the actual house is worth/would actually cost to
>>>> replace.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can you not say, "This is what I want to insure my house for?" Or is
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> one who funded your mortgage requiring the higher value?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> --
>>>>> OK Don
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>>>> 
>>>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>>> Wernher
>>>>> Von Braun
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