You are an asshole. Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I have the sliding doors open to the lanai and it’s about 70 in the house. > No fires. Plenty of electricity. > > -D > >> On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Well the blackout appears to have rolled our way. It went out around 7 and >> the text notification from PSO says estimated to be back on at 9. >> >> It’s -9 out right now and down to 63 in the house (I normally keep it at 68. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 11:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> As Allen said, when there's no heat in the air, it can't pump any, and is >>> probably smart enough not to try. If the aux heat strips are working, then >>> it's doing what it's supposed to do. Leave it alone and get some sleep (if >>> the power stays on). >>> OG&E is threatening rolling two hour blackouts if demand doesn't go down. >>> With the temp dropping below -12°F tonight, I don't see that happening. >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you're below the temps where a ambient-air heat pump really does >>>> anything at all. But as I said earlier I'm not speaking from experience. >>>> >>>> I'd fire up the wood stove if it were me. >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> >>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> Just noticed outside unit was shut off again. Coils had no frost on them >>>> at all but it was in low pressure lockout. Reset it and forced a defrost >>>> away way. It’s down to -4 at the moment. I wonder if it’s just too damn >>>> cold for it and pressure is dropping, or if it really is low on charge. If >>>> so, can these things even be charged in the winter? Or do they have to be >>>> done during the warmer months? Btw supposed to get down to -14 tonight. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Checked it a little while ago and the coils are clear. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/15/2021 3:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: >>>>>>> It’s been running all day without issue. I can’t say I have noticed if >>>> it’s ran a defrost cycle or not. I think here shortly I will go out and >>>> look at the coils and see if they are clear or have started frosting up >>>> again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Probably, given the outside temps and state of charge, the gas >>>> pressure going into the compressor gets too low if ice prevents the coils >>>> from absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM >>>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in there was no >>>> frost on the coils that I could see in the center part. I pulled the cover >>>> and sure enough it was blinking a low pressure lockout. With the side cover >>>> off I could see some frost on the outside of the coils, not a whole lot >>>> though. I shorted the test pins to reset it and it kicked back on. I >>>> shorted them again to force a defrost. Defrost ran for about 5-10 minutes >>>> and once frost was clear it kicked back into heat mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since replacing the defrost board with attached sensor last year, I >>>> have not had a problem sense. Why the heck did it happen again? I know it >>>> has a temp sensor for the coils. Do these work by going into a defrost >>>> cycle on a timed basis if the temp sensor is below a certain temp? Or do >>>> they sense the coils are freezing up and enter defrost when needed (not on >>>> a timed scheduled). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From what I recall, some old systems did not have a temp sensor and >>>> just went into defrost every so often. I think some systems sense when it >>>> needs to be done. Others I think are still timed but only do it when temp >>>> is below a certain point. This is a 2008 Rheem running on 410 so I am not >>>> sure. If mine runs on a timer only when temp gets low maybe it is so cold >>>> that it simply did not reach its run time to defrost soon enough before it >>>> started frosting up, or perhaps it is sucking in blowing snow which caused >>>> it to frost up faster? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2021 9:03 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>>>> It is now -3 outside, not sure how low it got last night. Anyway, >>>> heat >>>>>>>>> pump has been running pretty much non stop for the last few days with >>>>>>>>> the aux heat kicking on occasionally. Yesterday afternoon aux heat >>>> was >>>>>>>>> on quite a bit as it never got over 4 yesterday. This morning when I >>>>>>>>> woke up outside unit was running as normal. A little while later I >>>>>>>>> happen to look out and it is shut down. Normally when it goes into >>>>>>>>> defrost it will shut down for a moment then fire back up pretty >>>> quick. >>>>>>>>> It did not appear to be in a defrost cycle. I had issues before >>>> where >>>>>>>>> the temp sensor on the coils was evidentially bad because when it got >>>>>>>>> below freezing it would seemingly randomly never enter defrost cycle >>>>>>>>> and would frost over, which would then put it in a low pressure >>>>>>>>> lockout. I would have to jump the pins on the board to reset it and >>>>>>>>> force a defrost then it would be fine again for a while. Last year I >>>>>>>>> replaced the defrost board which has the temp sensor hard wired on >>>> it. >>>>>>>>> Never had a problem since. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway I was about to throw on a coat and go outside and pull the >>>>>>>>> cover and see if the board was flashing an error code and it started >>>>>>>>> back up. It is now about an hour later and I notice the outside unit >>>>>>>>> is not running again. I am not sure how long it has not been running >>>>>>>>> but I know its probably be at least 10-15 minutes. Is there some >>>> sort >>>>>>>>> of reason at these low temps that the outside unit would shut itself >>>>>>>>> down for a period of time then fire back up? Does the system >>>>>>>>> determine that it is so cold outside that the outside unit is not >>>>>>>>> producing any heat anyway and shuts itself down for a while? I will >>>>>>>>> wait a little bit longer and see what happens then go out in the >>>>>>>>> blowing snow to pull the cover and check the board to see if its >>>>>>>>> blinking any codes. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
