Sounds like the unit just kicked back on. Guess we shall see how the night 
goes. 

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> On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I will be damned if it isn’t shut off again. Can say for sure about last 
> time but this time code is for low pressure switch open, not the same low 
> pressure lockout as before. Don’t see any loose or damaged wires to any 
> pressure switches. Jumping the pins didn’t reset it either. Guess it will be 
> expensive aux heat tonight. 
> 
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> 
>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Just noticed outside unit was shut off again. Coils had no frost on them at 
>> all but it was in low pressure lockout. Reset it and forced a defrost away 
>> way. It’s down to -4 at the moment. I wonder if it’s just too damn cold for 
>> it and pressure is dropping, or if it really is low on charge. If so, can 
>> these things even be charged in the winter? Or do they have to be done 
>> during the warmer months? Btw supposed to get down to -14 tonight. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Checked it a little while ago and the coils are clear.
>>> 
>>>>> On 2/15/2021 3:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote:
>>>> It’s been running all day without issue. I can’t say I have noticed if 
>>>> it’s ran a defrost cycle or not. I think here shortly I will go out and 
>>>> look at the coils and see if they are clear or have started frosting up 
>>>> again.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Probably, given the outside temps and state of charge, the gas pressure 
>>>>> going into the compressor gets too low if ice prevents the coils from 
>>>>> absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air).
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM
>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I went out and checked it.  When I looked at in there was no frost 
>>>>> on the coils that I could see in the center part.  I pulled the cover and 
>>>>> sure enough it was blinking a low pressure lockout. With the side cover 
>>>>> off I could see some frost on the outside of the coils, not a whole lot 
>>>>> though.  I shorted the test pins to reset it and it kicked back on.  I 
>>>>> shorted them again to force a defrost.  Defrost ran for about 5-10 
>>>>> minutes and once frost was clear it kicked back into heat mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since replacing the defrost board with attached sensor last year, I have 
>>>>> not had a problem sense.  Why the heck did it happen again?  I know it 
>>>>> has a temp sensor for the coils.  Do these work by going into a defrost 
>>>>> cycle on a timed basis if the temp sensor is below a certain temp?  Or do 
>>>>> they sense the coils are freezing up and enter defrost when needed (not 
>>>>> on a timed scheduled).
>>>>> 
>>>>> From what I recall, some old systems did not have a temp sensor and just 
>>>>> went into defrost every so often.  I think some systems sense when it 
>>>>> needs to be done.  Others I think are still timed but only do it when 
>>>>> temp is below a certain point.  This is a 2008 Rheem running on 410 so I 
>>>>> am not sure.  If mine runs on a timer only when temp gets low maybe it is 
>>>>> so cold that it simply did not reach its run time to defrost soon enough 
>>>>> before it started frosting up, or perhaps it is sucking in blowing snow 
>>>>> which caused it to frost up faster?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/15/2021 9:03 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> It is now -3 outside, not sure how low it got last night. Anyway, heat
>>>>>> pump has been running pretty much non stop for the last few days with
>>>>>> the aux heat kicking on occasionally. Yesterday afternoon aux heat was
>>>>>> on quite a bit as it never got over 4 yesterday.  This morning when I
>>>>>> woke up outside unit was running as normal.  A little while later I
>>>>>> happen to look out and it is shut down. Normally when it goes into
>>>>>> defrost it will shut down for a moment then fire back up pretty quick.
>>>>>> It did not appear to be in a defrost cycle.  I had issues before where
>>>>>> the temp sensor on the coils was evidentially bad because when it got
>>>>>> below freezing it would seemingly randomly never enter defrost cycle
>>>>>> and would frost over, which would then put it in a low pressure
>>>>>> lockout. I would have to jump the pins on the board to reset it and
>>>>>> force a defrost then it would be fine again for a while.  Last year I
>>>>>> replaced the defrost board which has the temp sensor hard wired on it.
>>>>>> Never had a problem since.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway I was about to throw on a coat and go outside and pull the
>>>>>> cover and see if the board was flashing an error code and it started
>>>>>> back up.  It is now about an hour later and I notice the outside unit
>>>>>> is not running again.  I am not sure how long it has not been running
>>>>>> but I know its probably be at least 10-15 minutes.  Is there some sort
>>>>>> of reason at these low temps that the outside unit would shut itself
>>>>>> down for a period of time then fire back up?  Does the system
>>>>>> determine that it is so cold outside that the outside unit is not
>>>>>> producing any heat anyway and shuts itself down for a while?  I will
>>>>>> wait a little bit longer and see what happens then go out in the
>>>>>> blowing snow to pull the cover and check the board to see if its
>>>>>> blinking any codes.
>>>>>> 
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