Nope it’s all contained in the original brick chimney. I closed the doors on it 
and will see what happens

I really need to look into a generator or some sort. 



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> On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> The doors will probably make more heat, you're losing it up the chimney 
> because its getting too much air.
> 
> I've got a thermometer on the stove pipe and I'm always interested in the 
> fact that maximum heat is NOT achieved with maximum air. You've got to run a 
> lot of air to get the fire going and to get the stove/chimney warm but then 
> you need to restrict air some to get max heat. I don't completely understand 
> why but its a fact, at least in my stove. Some of the heat has to go into the 
> chimney, otherwise you won't be able to maintain good draft. Outside chimneys 
> might look cool but they suck for actually burning wood.
> 
> Do you have a pipe coming out of yours you can put a magnetic stove 
> thermometer on? Without one you'll produce less heat and burn way more wood 
> since you don't really know whats happening.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:36:05 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Got the fire going. Of course it will take a while to start putting off some 
> heat. Without the doors closed and the blower going, it seems like it’s 
> probably operating like a regular fireplace with most of the heat going ok 
> the chimney. 
> 
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> 
> > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Some of those units do pretty amazing things in the cold these days. 10-15 
> > years ago 20F was the practical minimum but I've read of units that will 
> > still work down to 0F and there are some that probably go colder. I suspect 
> > efficiency takes a dump at those temps though.
> > 
> > The guy I'm training to run the groomer is an HVAC installer and the other 
> > night he was telling me that just about nobody is installing ground source 
> > heat pumps any more due to the huge cost and the availability of low temp 
> > air source units combined with the low cost of natural gas.
> > 
> > I'd considered ground source but the ones I've looked at are $20,000+ while 
> > a new boiler for our house is more like $6,000 and would decrease our oil 
> > use 20-25%. It would take a long long time to pay off that extra cost. 
> > There are incentives but they're decreasing every year.
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:46:10 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I don’t know if size matters but it’s a 5 ton unit and even when it was in 
> > the single digest I could tell it was putting out heat. I could tell the 
> > difference between when the outside unit was running and when it was shut 
> > down and only using the aux heat.
> > 
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> > 
> > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > There's no point in it running if it can't extract any heat from the 
> > > air.  It's a wonder it was running and putting out much when it got down 
> > > below 20F or so.
> > > 
> > > --FT
> > > 
> > >> On 2/16/21 10:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Power just came back on a few minutes ago.  Outside unit still not 
> > >> running.  I did find the installation manual online though. Here is some 
> > >> info about the defrost and lockouts.  Sounds like it may simply be 
> > >> locking out because the temp is too low.
> > >> 
> > >> Heating Mode:The compressor and fan motor will stop when the low 
> > >> pressure control opens and will start again when the low side pressure 
> > >> rises to approximately 40 psig when the low pressure automatically 
> > >> resets�If the low pressure switch trips 3 times within 120 minutes of 
> > >> operation during a particular call for heating operation, the defrost 
> > >> control will lock out compressor and outdoor fan operation�If the lock 
> > >> out due to low pressure occurs at an outdoor ambient temperature below 
> > >> 5°F, the defrost control will automatically exit the lockout mode when 
> > >> the outdoor ambient temperature rises 5°F�This feature is necessary 
> > >> since the low pressure control could possibly have opened due to the 
> > >> outdoor ambient being very low rather than an actual system fault�
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Of course with the power being out I figure that would have caused the 
> > >> lockout to reset at least for a while.  Will see what happens when it 
> > >> gets over 5 this afternoon.
> > > 
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