Amen!

If and when I decided to pull the trigger on a pickup I’ll go for a base model 
with as little fluff as possible. Might even see if the commercial sales guys 
will sell me one.

-D

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 2 big reasons:#1. I don't want to spend $50,000. Heck I don't want to even 
> spend $40k. New trucks start at $30k but the price goes up fast.#2. I don't 
> want the infotainment system. I just don't want it, I want a radio, not a 
> screen. When I'm driving I just want to drive...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>    On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 4:51:48 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> 
> Why buy a stripped truck? My 2002 F150 Supercrew was a Lariat and thus 
> pretty loaded. I bought it used, in late 2006 with 90K miles on it and 
> drove it until I bought the 2013 Supercrew in late 2013. By then it had 
> 180K miles on it. I gave it to my son who put another 60,000+ miles on 
> it before it got rusty enough that he sold it in 2020. During that time 
> we had very little trouble with it. I know we put one power door lock 
> in. I don't think we put any power window units in but we might have 
> done one. The automatic temperature control of the heating and cooling 
> worked fine throughout. The driver's seat was power and it still worked 
> fine. The power mirrors worked fine. I cannot think of any electrical 
> problems that amounted to anything off the top of my head. I know we 
> replaced a coil on plug or two.
> 
> Similarly with the drive train. The engine and transmission, transfer 
> case and differentials were fine throughout. We replaced the real pinion 
> seal once or maybe twice. We did the universal joints. We did ball 
> joints, brakes etc - wear items. The original exhaust and muffler were 
> still on it and not leaking. We never had to change the CV boots on the 
> front axles.
> 
> The interior was still pretty good. The front bucket seats were getting 
> pretty worn on the outer edges of the seat bolsters. The leather had holes.
> 
> All in all, I don't think that a stripper truck would have been any less 
> expensive to own.
> 
> My 2013 is not quite as fancy. It is an XTR. It has cloth seats and does 
> not have the auto climate control. It does have the back up camera, 
> built in trailer brake controller, electric locker in the rear diff, 
> movable pedals (the 02 had those too), tilt column etc.
> I have had the 2013 for 7 years now and it has caused very little 
> trouble. I have replaced brakes and a battery. We put a fuel pump 
> control module in but apart from that I cannot think of anything it has 
> needed yet. It has about 70K miles on it now.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 18/03/2021 7:15 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think you can buy used U-haul pickups. Pretty basic, rubber mats, etc. I 
>> looked around on the site, but I didn't find anything. Perhaps they are sold 
>> out. Enterprise has a few trucks for sale.
>> 
>> https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/list/used-trucks-for-sale/sort=display_price,asc
>>  
>> <https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/list/used-trucks-for-sale/sort=display_price,asc>
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: March 17, 2021 9:04 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> 
>> I don’t know about Dodge, but my local Ford dealer has a totally separate 
>> group of people that handle “work” trucks. I've never spoken to them, but 
>> I’ve wondered if they will speak to an average consumer about buying a 
>> “basic” truck. I did this years ago in Wisconsin for a Suburban, because all 
>> of the dealers around me had tarted up ones with 4WD, 9 passenger, dual AC, 
>> etc., etc. I ended up going to Milwaukee to a big Chevy dealer there to get 
>> a basic Suburban with AC, AM radio and rubber floor mats.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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