The V12 Benz engines are like German buttah 

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> On Dec 5, 2022, at 3:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Like buttah, baby!
> 
> Yes, the smoothness of the V12 and chassis was such that it would mess with 
> your head, making you think you were just floating along when you’re really 
> ripping up the pavement.
> 
> The first time I drove an XJ12 I was on a two lane local street with a 30 mph 
> limit. I didn’t realize that I was doing near 60 mph in the car until the 
> passenger pointed it out.
> 
> They are wonderful cars when they work. But that’s a small part of the total 
> duty cycle for one.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah but the smoothness of the Jag V12 (when it was working) was remarkable, 
>> so I'm told.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, at 15:08, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There have been a number of companies out there selling conversion kits 
>>> to domestic iron, as it’s not terribly difficult to do, since a lot of 
>>> the older Jags used domestic transmissions. I know of a couple that did 
>>> conversions with short block Chevies.. Definitely made them more 
>>> reliable and less expensive to repair/maintain.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 3:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There used to be a company selling conversion kits to install a small 
>>>> block Ford V8 into the Jags.
>>>> Might not be all that easy to find a 289 or 302 these days. The newer 
>>>> engines tend to be wider.
>>>> 
>>>> Randy
>>>> 
>>>> On 05/12/2022 10:36 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> This is why being a Jaguar mechanic in the early 1980s was a very good 
>>>>> job. I likened it to being a mortician. No matter how bad things get, 
>>>>> you’ll always have work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And yes, those dual chain engines were a real treat to work on. Even the 
>>>>> 3.8 and 4.2 sixes were not pleasant to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 11:30 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it is true to form for a V12 Jag... each head has a seized exhaust
>>>>>> valve, so you would have to pull BOTH heads... and you need to pull the
>>>>>> engine because the only way to pull the heads is to use a head press tool
>>>>>> to jack the heads off the studs.. don't forget the cam drive chains [two
>>>>>> sets] down the front of the engine...
>>>>>> On the other hand, you will become world class in your ability to cuss..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:24 AM G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Pull the engine out to work on it. You will find lots of other things
>>>>>>> that need attention and can NOT be accessed with the engine in..
>>>>>>> 2. Plan for 6 months of 8 to 10 hr days only devoted to the Jag.
>>>>>>> 3. Become very friendly with your bank officers, well in advance.
>>>>>>> 4. When you are all done, and it runs properly [for a V12 Jag] you will
>>>>>>> own a 30 year old car that no one can afford to keep repaired, and few
>>>>>>> mechanics will touch, no resale value, vs money and time invested, will
>>>>>>> take you down a long dark hole.
>>>>>>> 5. Do not forget to factor in the pending divorce, the loss of your 
>>>>>>> house,
>>>>>>> and some years of Psych counseling to recover and rejection by your
>>>>>>> children, relatives, and friends...
>>>>>>> Other than those little things... Have a great experience.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For Sale: Flying Unicorn with solid gold saddle to ride while searching
>>>>>>> the world for the Jaguar Holy Grail: A One Owner V12 Jag that always 
>>>>>>> starts
>>>>>>> and runs, has never had a mechanical or electrical issue, and has over
>>>>>>> 500,000 miles on the clock with a perfect body and interior..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 8:26 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you have to ask....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, at 10:21, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hmmmm how much is a head job on a jagyoowah V12?  How many days would
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> take to pull it off?  (Maybe no worse than an oil cooler on a M137 
>>>>>>>>> V12)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/668323584955583
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>>>> 
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