The seller is firm at $4k, b/c it's "all original".  But he's unwilling to
get it started/moving.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 5:27 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would add that while implied, I didn’t point out that the headliner is
> glued down to the roof at the top of the windshield and rear window. The
> dark brown stuff you see is old glue, probably hide glue (as in made out of
> rendered animals.) You can’t really do a proper headliner install on these
> cars without removing the windshield and rear window seals. The fabric
> actually wraps around the weldment of the window opening in some places, so
> trhying to “cheat” and jus ttuck it under means having to try and jam a
> bunch of fabric where it doesn’t belong, or trimming it during installation
> (very risky!)
>
> And again, it’s the perfect opportunity to replace the windshield and rear
> window seals, too. With OE rubber, of course!
>
> -D
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Common, mainly because the back corners are anchored to the rear (C)
> pillar under the paneling that covers the pillar, and as the material ages
> it shrinks and pulls out. It’s probably got some of the brown discoloration
> on it as well.
>
> I can’t speak to the W108s, but four years ago or thereabouts when I was
> doing the W111 220SEb a new headliner, complete from Mercedes, was under
> $200 and on the shelf in Germany.
>
> But - it cost quite a bit to have it replaced. That’s mainly because I had
> both from and rear glass removed so new seals could be installed. Money
> well spent and the ideal time to do it all.
>
> -D
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com
> <mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> 
> The headliner in the local W108 4.5 is sagging in the rear.  Otherwise, is
> taut.
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 3:34 PM dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><
> http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Older cars with headliners that were installed with bows.
>
> -D
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> These are problems older cars never had.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:18 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><
> http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> These:
>
>
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1
> >
>
> [41aGnOJcKrL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFOURANDHALF,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA9%2C272,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZZZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
> Attmu 50 Pcs Upholstery Tacks Headliner Pins Clear Heads Twist Pins for
> Slipcovers and Bedskirts, 0.5 Inches Bed Skirt Pins<
> https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1
> >
> amazon.com<http://amazon.com/><http://amazon.com<http://amazon.com/>><
> https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1
> >
>
> -D
>
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:07 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><
> http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Very common in W210 and W211s, especially if they’ve lived in a hot
> climate.
>
> I’ve seen people use the little “corkscrew” pins to hold it up, but
> remember, you’re poking into a fiberglass panel in most cases, and it’s not
> going to like it.
>
> -D
>
> On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> I think the answer is "no" but is there an effective DIY approach to
> dealing with a sagging headliner? In the past I've tried 3M sticky spray
> and it initially works but not for long.
>
> If not, what sort of shop do I look for? There's one shop locally that
> advertises repairs that are typically in the $250-$500 range.
>
> Car in question is my W211 E500. Headliner is not down but it's sagging
> over the rear window shelf and seat back area, it flaps around in the
> breeze if I have the rear windows open.
>
> Allan
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