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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-01-26 21:01 -------
(In reply to comment #14)
> *** Bug 5710 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** The take 2 patch
works on mesa-6.4.1 also. In view of some of the vitriol above, I felt I should
outline a perspective of the user (not a programmer)of a hardened system.

Hardened systems are for resisting attackers, and the main application is
'always on' servers. As such, I have no business installing X, or DRI. It is
because mine is a learning exercise that these went in. Quake, kde, gnome, or
any other bug rich eye candy will never be installed. Not here. 
     When dri failed to install, I had 2 choices
          1. Forget DRI (Over the textrels)
          2. Recompile a kernel without CONFIG_PAX_NOELFRELOCS
This is such a major weakness that no hardened system would contemplate it for
long. Attackers intrude by exploiting some program; key to the continuance of
the attack is rewriting a pointer to  point at their own code. Relocating
position independent code with the kernel randomising location of the code makes
this latter step exceptionally difficult and noisy, as an attacker won't know
beforehand where anything is. No sitting ducks in ram.
     I will be quite happy with 75% of the performance of a gaming box, or 50%
of it. I don't ever want to see this adapted into the mainstream Mesa code
unless the various protections (Grsecurity, Pax, ssp, etc) are also adopted by
the mainstream development. But I would always like the patch available. I don't
care if it breaks with other boxes, or the API paper spec, as long as things 
work.


          
     
     
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