Sadly the list is being used daily for off-topic rants. Meteorite-related posts are becoming the minority. There are endless forums for speeding tickets etc, government, politics, privacy, there are few for meteorites. Sadly the meteorite forums on facebook have been taken over by endless Moroccan spam and demands to identify their endless rocks. I am blocking them because of the flood of spam. We have few places to turn for real meteorite talk. Please don't make this list about personal rants on government topics not related to meteorites. BLM rules, yes, speeding tickets, why?
Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Michael Bross" <[email protected]> wrote: > it is your way of thinking... not mine > especially because this forum has been much less on meteorites > since Fb and other social networks seem to drag the traffic... > and I will never go to these massroads > > I love meteorites for what they are. > I am not a collector, but happy to have some Campo del Ceilo > a Seshuan but no gorgeous pallasite... > > And I enjoy others sharing here on this worldwide forum, > like the sinkholes from Paul H. > > All the best > Michael B. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Michael Farmer" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:57 AM > To: "Michael Bross" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Adam Hupe" <[email protected]>; "Adam" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry > >> In no way shape or form does speed cameras or privacy rules etc belong on >> this list. Nothing in these emails was about meteorites. >> >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "Michael Bross" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi List >>> >>> Thank you Adam for your posts and links >>> I love the one with your soulmate waving to the camera. >>> >>> I am French, lived many years in NYC and the East. >>> Now with a "pied-a-terre" in Obernai, near Strasbourg in France. >>> >>> In France, the speed radars are almost only placed to milk money, as you >>> sadly said >>> for Colorado. (not to get the real "road dogs") >>> >>> Michael (Farmer), I also understand your point as this being of topic... >>> but is it so ? when we look at the lengthy interesting posts about BLM >>> rules, >>> the meteorite market etc... this goes in the same range of looking at our >>> world today >>> >>> Like Adam rightfully said... the freedom of privacy has gone >>> and I am very sad to hear that about USA ! >>> >>> Anyway... >>> In France, you can be on a road late at night with nobody around for >>> miles and time... and being flashed by a radar because you are a couple >>> miles >>> over the "limit", between quotes, because being at 80 or 100 miles an hour >>> in SUCH circumstances... doesn't matter at all. (we are talking about being >>> on a multiple lane freeway/ Autobahn with barely any other car or truck >>> around) >>> >>> In Germany, they have radars...BUT you have a margin of 05-10 kms in town >>> and 20-30 on Autobahn >>> btw, when I go to NYC, nobody is at the speed limit of 55 miles/hour >>> but more in the 65-70 range... the troopers onl sort out the ones really >>> off limits... >>> >>> So, I agree with Adam with all the points he made. >>> Socially responsible... YES >>> But... please no not-human eye to estimate a situation as it should be... >>> >>> Au revoir >>> Michael B. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Adam Hupe" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:18 AM >>> To: "Adam" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry >>> >>>> There are some people headed to Hollbrook through Kingman this weekend. >>>> Just wanted to give them a heads up on unfair ticketing going on. Somebody >>>> else posted the Curry contact which complained about unfair traffic >>>> violation citations. It is pretty bad when some cops are too lazy hand >>>> out tickets in person and depend on cameras to do the job. I have seen >>>> mobile camera trucks with 20 foot booms in Arizona waiting around blind >>>> corners on the freeway just to ruin somebody's day who may be going a few >>>> miles over the limit! It is pretty bad when you can retrace your road >>>> trip 3 months later just by accessing the data on traffic cams. >>>> >>>> What ever happened to chasing speeders down and giving them a ticket face >>>> to face so you can al least see who your accuser is and argue with them if >>>> they are wrong? >>>> >>>> To me, all this data collecting (spying) on every single person in the >>>> United States and those in other countries reflects poorly on those >>>> currently in office who are abusing this new-found power. They need to be >>>> ousted! What ever happened to warrants and probable cause? Our freedom >>>> of privacy is at stake! >>>> >>>> What next, a toilet cam with a weight monitor under the seat, a DNA >>>> sampler and a butt recognition system? >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Michael Farmer <[email protected]> >>>> To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Adam <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:10 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry >>>> >>>> Why is this on the list? >>>> Michael Farner >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There are thousands of cameras in place in Arizona, some of which will >>>>> still issue thousands of tickets per camera per year. They are called >>>>> traffic cams and they will still capture your every move and store this >>>>> data for an undetermined period of time. The cameras have OCR meaning >>>>> they can read your license plate numbers. This gives them the ability to >>>>> retrace your every move if needed in court. >>>>> >>>>> The freedom of privacy is long gone! >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Michael Mulgrew <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: Meteorite List <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:11 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry >>>>> >>>>> One of thousands of cameras? Might be a bit of an overstatement. >>>>> According to an article written in 2010 (after the state stopped the >>>>> photo speed enforcement program), only a few local jurisdictions still >>>>> use them. >>>>> >>>>> "This is much more limited in scale and scope," [Matthew Benson, a >>>>> spokesman for the Governor's Office] said. "You've only got (eight) >>>>> instances of this throughout the state." >>>>> http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/some-arizona-cities-still-using-speed-cameras-after-program-was-ended-by-gov-jan-brewer >>>>> >>>>> Michael in so. Cal. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> It is interesting that our friend is speaking of traffic stops. Luckily >>>>>> for us, ED or Electronic D.N.A. is on the job 24 hours a day 365 days a >>>>>> year. Here are some images of my wife I with a Nevada State Patrol in >>>>>> hot pursuit. She had the ticket printed before we were even stopped as >>>>>> witnessed on camera. In Arizona, they will just send you a ticket in >>>>>> the mail if one of the thousands of cameras tracks you speeding. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Image of Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit: >>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-a.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Ticket already printed before stop: >>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-b.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Sate Patrol officer looks pretty huffed, see you in court: >>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-c.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Excuses like my throttle was stuck, my foot fell asleep or my tennis >>>>>> shoe is made out cement will not fly in court these days since ED >>>>>> doesn't lie. Tell the truth and you may get off with a parking meter >>>>>> violation even though there are no parking meters here in Laughlin, >>>>>> Nevada. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be careful on these long meteorite hunting road trips if you do not want >>>>>> see a ticket in the mail or worse yet a trooper who has the look of glee >>>>>> on their face when they pull you over! >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
