Michael Bross wrote [in regards to social media, {electronic
communication}]:
"... instant, no depth !"
I could not agree with his comment more... human interaction is lost in
electronic communications!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bross
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:12 PM
To: Michael Farmer
Cc: Adam
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
you post while I was writing to you again
and now you put a more aggressive tone. It's ok for now...
before I respond to your post, here is what I was trying
to share with you:
I don't know Adam Hupe.
I saw many emails at once about Curry ... thread still on...
we continue exchanging with that "subject line"...!
The one from Adam Hupe attracted me immediately.
He is not talking about gvt etc... but showing that in
Colorado... in the desert mainly... especially if you are a
Meteorite Hunter like you... you have speed cameras
to check if you are a danger to others... !!
That's what I read in his first etc... posts.
Not just regulations
To your post:
- given up of what ? The very few interesting posts on this forum
for the last year and a half ? (we can continue on this...)
where are they now ?
- chatrooms ?!... sure... where you spend your time trying
to figure out to what line you got the relating answer... a non dialog !
Fb and other Twit... instant, no depth !
So, there is a place for this forum and others to allow that space
of freedom
That's what I feel tonight
And if wrong... I will leave this forum, which became mostly about some
ads, some rants... and very few about Meteorites
All best
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From: "Michael Farmer" <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:40 AM
To: "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; "Adam"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
There is low traffic because most have given up and either left or just
don't bother anymore.
If you are bored there are chatrooms. I talk politics on Facebook, I
prefer to talk meteorites on this meteorite list. It has rules clearly
spelled out that all post need to relate to meteorites.
While cool scientific posts are often on here, and no one complains as
they are usually about geology or astronomy, which can be rolled into
meteorites in general, speeding tickets and cameras really don't need to
be here unless you say "watch out just before Holbrook turn as there is a
speed camera" for example. Ive been on this list for 14 years and have
seen it dwindle from 50-60 posts a day down to 2 or 3 useful. Perhaps we
can find our way back to meteorites?
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
wrote:
because, they are really few forums today where there is an exchange.
I am on various forums: archeometallurgy, medicinal plants, ancient tools
etc...
The exchange has become so minimal compared to the late 90s
The "success" of them were in being able to talk about other topics
when there were of interest, of course...
I enjoyed seeing a recent post from Michael Cottingham about his
Yerba Mansa project (I still have to contact him)
and many other OT subjects here... lately
If they enrich us/me, they are not OT
Don't you think that way ? or are meteorites your only interest ?
When you go Tucson or other Meteorite gathering, do you only talk
about meteorites ?
If not, why not here ?
There is such low traffic... and the delete key is so accessible
All the best
Michael
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From: "Michael Farmer" <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:17 AM
To: "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; "Adam"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
Sadly the list is being used daily for off-topic rants.
Meteorite-related posts are becoming the
minority. There are endless forums for speeding tickets etc, government,
politics, privacy, there are few for meteorites. Sadly the meteorite
forums on facebook have been taken over by endless Moroccan spam and
demands to identify their endless rocks. I am blocking them because of
the flood of spam. We have few places to turn for real meteorite talk.
Please don't make this list about personal rants on government topics
not related to meteorites. BLM rules, yes, speeding tickets, why?
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
wrote:
it is your way of thinking... not mine
especially because this forum has been much less on meteorites
since Fb and other social networks seem to drag the traffic...
and I will never go to these massroads
I love meteorites for what they are.
I am not a collector, but happy to have some Campo del Ceilo
a Seshuan but no gorgeous pallasite...
And I enjoy others sharing here on this worldwide forum,
like the sinkholes from Paul H.
All the best
Michael B.
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From: "Michael Farmer" <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:57 AM
To: "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; "Adam"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
In no way shape or form does speed cameras or privacy rules etc belong
on this list. Nothing in these emails was about meteorites.
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "Michael Bross" <elemen...@peconic.net>
wrote:
Hi List
Thank you Adam for your posts and links
I love the one with your soulmate waving to the camera.
I am French, lived many years in NYC and the East.
Now with a "pied-a-terre" in Obernai, near Strasbourg in France.
In France, the speed radars are almost only placed to milk money, as
you sadly said
for Colorado. (not to get the real "road dogs")
Michael (Farmer), I also understand your point as this being of
topic...
but is it so ? when we look at the lengthy interesting posts about
BLM rules,
the meteorite market etc... this goes in the same range of looking at
our world today
Like Adam rightfully said... the freedom of privacy has gone
and I am very sad to hear that about USA !
Anyway...
In France, you can be on a road late at night with nobody around for
miles and time... and being flashed by a radar because you are a
couple miles
over the "limit", between quotes, because being at 80 or 100 miles an
hour
in SUCH circumstances... doesn't matter at all. (we are talking about
being
on a multiple lane freeway/ Autobahn with barely any other car or
truck around)
In Germany, they have radars...BUT you have a margin of 05-10 kms in
town
and 20-30 on Autobahn
btw, when I go to NYC, nobody is at the speed limit of 55 miles/hour
but more in the 65-70 range... the troopers onl sort out the ones
really
off limits...
So, I agree with Adam with all the points he made.
Socially responsible... YES
But... please no not-human eye to estimate a situation as it should
be...
Au revoir
Michael B.
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From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:18 AM
To: "Adam" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
There are some people headed to Hollbrook through Kingman this
weekend. Just wanted to give them a heads up on unfair ticketing
going on. Somebody else posted the Curry contact which complained
about unfair traffic violation citations. It is pretty bad when
some cops are too lazy hand out tickets in person and depend on
cameras to do the job. I have seen mobile camera trucks with 20
foot booms in Arizona waiting around blind corners on the freeway
just to ruin somebody's day who may be going a few miles over the
limit! It is pretty bad when you can retrace your road trip 3
months later just by accessing the data on traffic cams.
What ever happened to chasing speeders down and giving them a ticket
face to face so you can al least see who your accuser is and argue
with them if they are wrong?
To me, all this data collecting (spying) on every single person in
the United States and those in other countries reflects poorly on
those currently in office who are abusing this new-found power. They
need to be ousted! What ever happened to warrants and probable
cause? Our freedom of privacy is at stake!
What next, a toilet cam with a weight monitor under the seat, a DNA
sampler and a butt recognition system?
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
Why is this on the list?
Michael Farner
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There are thousands of cameras in place in Arizona, some of which
will still issue thousands of tickets per camera per year. They
are called traffic cams and they will still capture your every move
and store this data for an undetermined period of time. The
cameras have OCR meaning they can read your license plate numbers.
This gives them the ability to retrace your every move if needed in
court.
The freedom of privacy is long gone!
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Mulgrew <mikest...@gmail.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
One of thousands of cameras? Might be a bit of an overstatement.
According to an article written in 2010 (after the state stopped
the
photo speed enforcement program), only a few local jurisdictions
still
use them.
"This is much more limited in scale and scope," [Matthew Benson, a
spokesman for the Governor's Office] said. "You've only got (eight)
instances of this throughout the state."
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/some-arizona-cities-still-using-speed-cameras-after-program-was-ended-by-gov-jan-brewer
Michael in so. Cal.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Adam Hupe
<raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is interesting that our friend is speaking of traffic stops.
Luckily for us, ED or Electronic D.N.A. is on the job 24 hours a
day 365 days a year. Here are some images of my wife I with a
Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit. She had the ticket printed
before we were even stopped as witnessed on camera. In Arizona,
they will just send you a ticket in the mail if one of the
thousands of cameras tracks you speeding.
Image of Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit:
http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-a.jpg
Ticket already printed before stop:
http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-b.jpg
Sate Patrol officer looks pretty huffed, see you in court:
http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-c.jpg
Excuses like my throttle was stuck, my foot fell asleep or my
tennis shoe is made out cement will not fly in court these days
since ED doesn't lie. Tell the truth and you may get off with a
parking meter violation even though there are no parking meters
here in Laughlin, Nevada.
Be careful on these long meteorite hunting road trips if you do
not want see a ticket in the mail or worse yet a trooper who has
the look of glee on their face when they pull you over!
Adam
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