Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative

[Mark Miconi]

Bush is looking at one contigency only....and that is if China beats us back to the moon we will have the largest COMMUNIST NUKE owning country in command of the moon. Our strategic command of the skies will be gone, as will the safety of our satellites, both commercial and military.   Possesion is 99% of the rule. Once any country sets up a permanent base on the moon they will have command of the high ground.   I for one will feel much better if it is the good ole USA in control of the moon.   Just my paranonia showing through.   Mark M. Phoenix AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Wu To: Martin Altmann ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative In a strange way yes. The apollo astronaut discovered helium 3 which at a billion dollars a ton is energy equivalent to oil at seven dollars a barrel if we can figure out how to use it. The Chinese think this can be done by the time they set up there moon base and we don't want to be left behind, so says Bush's science advisors.   Perhaps we can get him to volunteer for the first mars mission, one way.   Howard Wu Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They found oil there?   Or do they have to place the Moon car there, before the VLT in Chile is ready?   Martin A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative This is still NOT proven and in fact, there is evidence there is little or not water on the Moon. When they crashed Clementine into a shadowed crater thought to have water ice, none was seen in the debris.   The ISS is fragile and not really a great place to work. Microgravity is very difficult to work in. The Moon would be a much better place and much easier to work in and leave out from. Besides, we need to learn to work on the surface of another planet and the Moon would be a great place to do just that.   Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom aka James Knudson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative Hi John, From what I understood from awhile back, the ice that is on the moons poles(?) would save them a lot of water hauling from earth. With the escape velocity so much less on the Moon, they would have an easier time launching a rocket full of water (for drinking and such) on the way to mars from there as opposed to the Earth. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this list....just asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech.   He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space exploration missions.  Yet the moon has harsh environmental challenges.....and it seems those challenges are less on Mars.  Only the distance is a problem.    It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth would be the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond?   John     Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now