Carl, your analogy is so flawed it isn't worth debate. When profits dwindle it's time to find another business. Welcome to free trade and capitalism Aziz. Bill
---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:43:16 -0400 > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; azizhab...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is > suffering > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Bill, > Aziz's worries are very real here. > Yes, in an ideal world you are correct. But, > Aziz and others make their living buying and selling meteorites. No. you > cannot eat them but, the same can be said about oil and energy in general. > These dealers are no better off than oil investors. When hedge funds or > anyone else corners a market as they have. The market gets controlled by them > and if you want to stay in business you have to pay the price. Remember these > hedge funds types have a lot of money. They CAN afford to sit on the material > until a willing buyer comes along. It is a lose , lose situation. > Market manipulation is very real and until outlawed it will continue to put > undue pressure on the smaller dealers like Aziz and others. They must either > pay the asking price or go out of business. Very sad but true. So, Aziz must > pay the price and hope he can convince others to pay his new and inflated > asking price. In America the opposite is happening with meteorites. EBay has > forced the prices down. So, if you make a living with eBay you must adjust . > If you make a living with Nomads you must adjust. > Carl > -- > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote".” > > > > ---- bill kies wrote: > > > > Exactly. When the seller demands more than the buyer is willing to pay, the > > seller either adjusts his prices or keeps his merchandise. Supply and > > demand is more applicable to necessities than extravagances. None of us can > > eat meteorites, well, most of us can't or won't. > > > > Extremely rare material is an exception I suppose. > > > > Bill > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:08:34 -0700 > > > From: azizhab...@yahoo.com > > > Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is > > > suffering > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > CC: parkforest...@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > bill > > > this is not a good theories, at all, > > > > > > offer and demand make the rules of prices in the market , there is an > > > equation > > > of equilibre between offer and demand , and also rarity, > > > > > > plusieurs facteurs sont responsable de l'equation des prix , offre > > > demande , > > > rarete , type luxe ou nessecite, besoin anssi de suite, > > > > > > a plus > > > > > > aziz h > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > > De : bill kies > > > À : azizhab...@yahoo.com > > > Cc : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Envoyé le : Dim 5 juin 2011, 23h 20min 38s > > > Objet : RE: [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is suffering > > > > > > > > > That's how markets evolve. When suppliers realize the fact that their > > > unrealistic prices aren't getting them anywhere, they'll loosen up. It's > > > the > > > same everywhere. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:34:29 -0700 > > > > From: azizhab...@yahoo.com > > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > CC: alm...@kconline.com > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is suffering > > > > > > > > al > > > > > > > > if the meteorite are intersting or unique or new unpaired material we > > > > pay a > > > >good > > > > price , we gamble this is the proper term in hope to find planetary > > > > meteorite: > > > > we are lately more gambling than buying meteorite or earth rock that > > > > look like > > > > meteorite,we call those suspecious meteorite and many martian and lunar > > > > come > > > > from those, > > > > > > > > but to the fact that some old fall are in sales now for more than what > > > > they > > > > were when found this is also true; > > > > > > > > most of the nomade keep there stone because we can't pay the price they > > > > are > > > > asking, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take care > > > > > > > > aziz h > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is will dealers pay more if they can't make any money on > > > >specimens? > > > > Seems like you can buy old falls for as much or less than the new stuff > > > > coming > > > > out of the Sahara. Unless it is something like lunar, martain or ultra > > > > rare > > > > material specimens. Best! > > > > > > > > --AL Mitterling > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "habibi abdelaziz" > > > > To: "meteorite list" > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:22 AM > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello all > > > > > price are high very high, , there is no more meteorite found like old > > > > > time; > > > > > you want to have meteorite in sahara desert you have to pay more ; > > > > > and more > > > > and > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > so simpley and so sadly ; > > > > > the field are drying , so simple > > > > > > > > > > aziz h > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > > Visit the Archives at > > > > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Visit the Archives at > > > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
