Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:43:16 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is
suffering
CC: [email protected]
Bill,
Aziz's worries are very real here.
Yes, in an ideal world you are correct. But,
Aziz and others make their living buying and selling meteorites. No. you
cannot eat them but, the same can be said about oil and energy in
general.
These dealers are no better off than oil investors. When hedge funds or
anyone else corners a market as they have. The market gets controlled by
them and if you want to stay in business you have to pay the price.
Remember these hedge funds types have a lot of money. They CAN afford to
sit on the material until a willing buyer comes along. It is a lose ,
lose
situation.
Market manipulation is very real and until outlawed it will continue to
put undue pressure on the smaller dealers like Aziz and others. They must
either pay the asking price or go out of business. Very sad but true. So,
Aziz must pay the price and hope he can convince others to pay his new
and
inflated asking price. In America the opposite is happening with
meteorites. EBay has forced the prices down. So, if you make a living
with
eBay you must adjust . If you make a living with Nomads you must adjust.
Carl
--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote".”
---- bill kies wrote:
>
> Exactly. When the seller demands more than the buyer is willing to pay,
> the seller either adjusts his prices or keeps his merchandise. Supply
> and demand is more applicable to necessities than extravagances. None
> of
> us can eat meteorites, well, most of us can't or won't.
>
> Extremely rare material is an exception I suppose.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:08:34 -0700
> > From: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is
> > suffering
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > bill
> > this is not a good theories, at all,
> >
> > offer and demand make the rules of prices in the market , there is an
> > equation
> > of equilibre between offer and demand , and also rarity,
> >
> > plusieurs facteurs sont responsable de l'equation des prix , offre
> > demande ,
> > rarete , type luxe ou nessecite, besoin anssi de suite,
> >
> > a plus
> >
> > aziz h
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Message d'origine ----
> > De : bill kies
> > À : [email protected]
> > Cc : [email protected]
> > Envoyé le : Dim 5 juin 2011, 23h 20min 38s
> > Objet : RE: [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is
> > suffering
> >
> >
> > That's how markets evolve. When suppliers realize the fact that their
> > unrealistic prices aren't getting them anywhere, they'll loosen up.
> > It's the
> > same everywhere.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:34:29 -0700
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > CC: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re : Moroccan business meteorite is
> > > suffering
> > >
> > > al
> > >
> > > if the meteorite are intersting or unique or new unpaired material
> > > we pay a
> > >good
> > > price , we gamble this is the proper term in hope to find planetary
> > > meteorite:
> > > we are lately more gambling than buying meteorite or earth rock
> > > that
> > > look like
> > > meteorite,we call those suspecious meteorite and many martian and
> > > lunar come
> > > from those,
> > >
> > > but to the fact that some old fall are in sales now for more than
> > > what they
> > > were when found this is also true;
> > >
> > > most of the nomade keep there stone because we can't pay the price
> > > they are
> > > asking,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > take care
> > >
> > > aziz h
> > >
> > >
> > > The question is will dealers pay more if they can't make any money
> > > on
> > >specimens?
> > > Seems like you can buy old falls for as much or less than the new
> > > stuff coming
> > > out of the Sahara. Unless it is something like lunar, martain or
> > > ultra rare
> > > material specimens. Best!
> > >
> > > --AL Mitterling
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "habibi abdelaziz"
> > > To: "meteorite list"
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:22 AM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
> > >
> > >
> > > > hello all
> > > > price are high very high, , there is no more meteorite found like
> > > > old time;
> > > > you want to have meteorite in sahara desert you have to pay more
> > > > ;
> > > > and more
> > > and
> > > > more
> > > >
> > > > so simpley and so sadly ;
> > > > the field are drying , so simple
> > > >
> > > > aziz h
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