Productivity group was bought out by Preditor software, so the Runnel's are
no longer in business.  I believe they are in Portland now, but not sure.
Also, there is a place in California that sells upgrades.
and thanks for all the opinions and ideas.
Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Bob Looney'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jon Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "
Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SmartCam Tech (E-mail) "
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Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture


> Truer words have never been spoken...by the way, where are you going with
> your 1 grand for the upgarde. I had found a web site, through this user
> group that still sold SmartCAM packages. However, when I go there it is no
> longer there.
>
> The web site was called Productivity Group at
> http://www.productivitygroup.com
> And the contact was a Stacy Runnells at +1 (888) 297-1435
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Looney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 8:42 PM
> To: Jon Baker; Michael Senack; SmartCam Tech (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
>
> spend the 1 grand, it's the same GUI you're used to, works
> and feels the same, and you have FREE tech support right here in this
forum.
> ps: you can't buy, implement, and tweak a new app for
> $1,000.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 6:00 PM
> To: Michael Senack; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SmartCam Tech
> (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
>
>
> OK, so we are, in a round about way, discussing, (dissing)
> other CAM
> products.  I use SC freeform, v11.5 and it works great for
> me.  I also have
> an old seat of SC production Turn, V6.0, DOS.  For the
> little I use it, it
> is ok, HOWEVER, it is DOS based, which puts a damper on
> networking, printer
> sharing, file name size, video cards, etc etc etc.
> SOOOOOO.........
> Do I pony up the $1000 to upgrade to prod turn 11.5, or is
> there some other
> simple 2 axis turning program that will function easily that
> won't cost as
> much, but is windows based.  Any suggestions guys????
> Jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SmartCam Tech (E-mail) "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:23 AM
> Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
>
>
> > Lets see the demo guy said I would need the following...
> > 1) 1 week of intro to Pro/E
> > 2) go off and experiement for 8 to 12 weeks on my own
> > 3) 1 week of  Pro/Manufacture
> > 4) 1 week of  post processor ( optional if you decide to
> buy your post
> > processors at $1000 a pop per machine plus any tweaking is
> extra cost per
> > hour )
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Looney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:34 PM
> > To: SmartCam Tech (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
> >
> > tell him you want to join the user list before you put
> your
> > money down. had
> > we joined and learned what the users thought of Visual
> Mfg.
> > (accounting, job
> > cost, etc.) we probably would not have bought that piece
> of
> > crap.
> > bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Schoeppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:00 PM
> > To: Michael Senack; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
> >
> >
> > PRO-I is no cake walk to learn but in 3 or 4 years you can
> > make it do some
> > pretty awesome stuff!
> >
> >     thanks bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Senack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:32 AM
> > Subject: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture
> >
> >
> > > Okay fellow SmartCAM users I finally got a demo of  PM
> > ( Pro/Manufacture )on
> > > a real milling part that we make here. The demo was
> good,
> > and the demo guy
> > > did not put on a dog and pony show. A lot of my
> questions
> > were answered
> > > satisfactorily and get this, the questions  that he
> could
> > not answer he
> > > said, "I don't know if PM can do that but I can look
> into
> > that for you."
> > >
> > > The demo guy mentioned that there is a Pro/E and
> > Pro/Manufacture user
> > group
> > > to post questions. So that in itself is a bonus based on
> > my SmartCAM user
> > > group postings.
> > >
> > > So with that in mind, what I would like to get is some
> > input from anybody
> > > whom has had an encounter with PM. Stuff like... How is
> > their technical
> > > support? How long is the learning curve to become
> > efficient enough in PM
> > to
> > > say it's time to plug the on SmartCAM? Anything...
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
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