SmartCAM V4.5 runs in a full window under Windows 3.1, Windows 98 & Windows NT V4.0 just wonderfully. I can open multi sessions of V4.5 under 3.1 & NT but 98 will only allow one session to run. At work I use a Digital Pentiun III 650 mhz with 128 meg ram 19" monitor which I run Windows NT V4.0 on a network. At home I have SC V4.5 running under Windows 3.1 on a Dell 486 66 dx2 computer with 64 meg ram. Also, V4.5 is running on a Dell 450 mhz Pentium II with 128 meg ram using Windows 98. As for V6.0 of SmartCAM running under any Windows forget it.The PHARLAP technology it uses will not work with Windows. I also run V11.5 so that is how I get around the networking, printer sharing, file name size and naming. This means that alot of ALT tabbing goes on between all the various modules but as long as the work goes out on time and there are no complaints long live DOS! or at least until I finish my transition to V11.5 which with this user group form is going fine. I just wonder when they'll send me on some Pro/Manufacture training...
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: SmartCam Tech (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, July 15, 2000 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >Oh Jeff, I have indeed tried all those things, and as our friends at >Productivity Group told me, they have never seen it successfully done. The >biggest problem is the old VGI graphics drivers for the dos based program. >Unless you can get an old video card, circa 1990 or so, it flat wont work. >In addition to this, SmartCam is rather tempremental about operating "under >the control" of another program, ie windows. I spent a few days trying, and >settled for making a dos-box with a old video card that only used SmartCam. >But thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the thoughts. >Jon. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Guse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "SmartCam Tech (E-mail) " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 8:58 AM >Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture > > >> If it runs in MS-DOS, then more than likely it will run in a DOS window >> under Win9x. If not, then it may need a full screen DOS session running >but >> that is not a problem for Win9x either. This way you can have your >> networking, printer sharing, and all the other modern features and still >be >> able to use your DOS programs. Your program might even run under NT4, >> depending on how well behaved it is when it comes to accessing various >> computer ports and hardware. I have some DOS programs that run without a >> problem under NT4 because the author did things right the first time. >OTOH, >> I have some programs that NT refuses to let run because they go out and >> start making all kinds of illegal system calls and who know what. >> >> My advise to you if you want to keep using it would be to load it on a >Win9x >> box and see what happens. The worst case is that it simply won't run in a >> DOS window or a DOS session. >> >> Jeff Guse >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jon Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SmartCam >> Tech (E-mail) " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 8:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >> >> >> > OK, so we are, in a round about way, discussing, (dissing) other CAM >> > products. I use SC freeform, v11.5 and it works great for me. I also >> have >> > an old seat of SC production Turn, V6.0, DOS. For the little I use it, >it >> > is ok, HOWEVER, it is DOS based, which puts a damper on networking, >> printer >> > sharing, file name size, video cards, etc etc etc. SOOOOOO......... >> > Do I pony up the $1000 to upgrade to prod turn 11.5, or is there some >> other >> > simple 2 axis turning program that will function easily that won't cost >as >> > much, but is windows based. Any suggestions guys???? >> > Jon >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SmartCam Tech (E-mail) " >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:23 AM >> > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >> > >> > >> > > Lets see the demo guy said I would need the following... >> > > 1) 1 week of intro to Pro/E >> > > 2) go off and experiement for 8 to 12 weeks on my own >> > > 3) 1 week of Pro/Manufacture >> > > 4) 1 week of post processor ( optional if you decide to buy your post >> > > processors at $1000 a pop per machine plus any tweaking is extra cost >> per >> > > hour ) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Bob Looney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:34 PM >> > > To: SmartCam Tech (E-mail) >> > > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >> > > >> > > tell him you want to join the user list before you put your >> > > money down. had >> > > we joined and learned what the users thought of Visual Mfg. >> > > (accounting, job >> > > cost, etc.) we probably would not have bought that piece of >> > > crap. >> > > bob >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Bill Schoeppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:00 PM >> > > To: Michael Senack; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >> > > >> > > >> > > PRO-I is no cake walk to learn but in 3 or 4 years you can >> > > make it do some >> > > pretty awesome stuff! >> > > >> > > thanks bill >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: Michael Senack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:32 AM >> > > Subject: [mfg-smartcam] Pro/Manufacture >> > > >> > > >> > > > Okay fellow SmartCAM users I finally got a demo of PM >> > > ( Pro/Manufacture )on >> > > > a real milling part that we make here. The demo was good, >> > > and the demo guy >> > > > did not put on a dog and pony show. A lot of my questions >> > > were answered >> > > > satisfactorily and get this, the questions that he could >> > > not answer he >> > > > said, "I don't know if PM can do that but I can look into >> > > that for you." >> > > > >> > > > The demo guy mentioned that there is a Pro/E and >> > > Pro/Manufacture user >> > > group >> > > > to post questions. So that in itself is a bonus based on >> > > my SmartCAM user >> > > > group postings. >> > > > >> > > > So with that in mind, what I would like to get is some >> > > input from anybody >> > > > whom has had an encounter with PM. Stuff like... How is >> > > their technical >> > > > support? How long is the learning curve to become >> > > efficient enough in PM >> > > to >> > > > say it's time to plug the on SmartCAM? Anything... >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to >> > > unsubscribe, >> > > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to >> > > unsubscribe, >> > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to >> > > unsubscribe, >> > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, >> > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > ====================================================================== >> > > >> > >> > ====================================================================== >> > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, >> > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ====================================================================== >> >> ====================================================================== >> To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, >> send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ====================================================================== >> >> > >====================================================================== >To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, >send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >====================================================================== ====================================================================== To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================
