Actually, that's not entirely true. If the R word is absent when a canned cycle is 
specified it generates an alarm. If the canned cycle word is absent the Z word is 
assumed as absolute regardless of the R word. Since Z zero is usually the center of 
the pallet that will usually put the tool thru the part. Or at least try. Not much 
cutting action will take place, just crunching.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Benz H. Babecki
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SmartCAM User Group
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] R levels


CRASH! been there done that!
Benz

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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'SmartCAM User Group'
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] R levels


Just a thought, if the machines do in fact default to R.1, how do they
behave if the R value is absent (ie. other words if you completely eliminate
the R value from the output)?  If it still goes to .1 then it seems you
could just put some logic in your .tmp to test for R values greater than .1
and only output them if the a particular situation warrants.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:31 AM
To: JNB; SmartCAM User Group
Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] R levels


At 07:49 PM 3/30/2004 -0800, JNB wrote:
>Hello group,
>
>Am I missing something? Why would you want to have an R level of 0.0 on
>any tool?
>This leaves no room for error when the operator decides to adjust the
>depth .050.
>Drill's don't like slamming into the part before the cut.
>I do programs with over 60 tools and many differant R levels and don't
>have a problem with it.
>Is this a new practice that I've not heard of in my 25 years of machining?
>
>Jeff


Jeff,
Our Cincinnati's with 850 and 950 controllers have a default R Plane of
0.1000 on all the drill cycles.  98% of our machines are Cinci's.
We are just trying to speed up some of the drilling cycles.  Since we do a
lot of the same parts and we usually have 4 or more drilling cycles and
anywhere from 5 to 40 drill cycles per machine cycle, we can save a little
time.  Is it worth it?  I can't really say, but this is what the company
and some of the operators want so I have to conform my programming habits
to appease everyone.  Personally I can't see it saving a whole lot of time.
I hope this clarifies everything.


Kevin Clark
Programmer
Abbott Workholding Inc.

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