On Friday, May 28, 2010, Jesse Farinacci wrote: ... > > Look again. He asked for what was "best", not "high > > performance". Not the same thing. > > Perhaps you should look again at the OP: "We are not talking > comfort zone, but technical issues like does one distro's HV out > preform another?" -- I'll grant you it is very difficult to > navigate the maze of parenthetical comments and spelling mistakes, > but surely I can not be blamed for saying "" Gentoo would be best > because it has the best performance "" when it is clearly > something the OP asked specifically about.
I'll just accept that. ... > > Gentoo often causes admins pitfalls, and that needs to be > > considered before choosing it. By "selling" Gentoo is this "off > > the cuff" way without explaining anything, I believe you're > > hurting your own cause in the end. > > Every distribution has admin pitfalls. I don't think I'm a stupid > guy, but I literally spent an entire day trying to get an Ubuntu > system installed and up to date; this was back in the 8.04 days, > and I did so without a manual. I eventually gave up and asked the > guy across the hall to do it in exchange for a coffee. I've had that problem, too... sure. If you don't know what you're doing you can easily break an 'distribution' upgrade on Debian or Ubuntu. [You have to know to use 'apt-get dist-upgrade', because that's the only way the system knows to upgrade the packages in the correct order, and without removing necessary dependencies.] You're able to deal with Gentoo as well as you can because of your intimate familiarity with it, as I am with Debian and as Joe is with Ubuntu. This is also the real reason why your statement of "Gentoo is fastest" bothered me. > Furthermore, my cause is merely to find the path of least > resistance. I know we've talked in person and online before, but I > don't think I've ever come across as some sort of software > liberation freedom fighter (my license of choice is ASL-2, not > GPL-*). I like Gentoo because it quite simply is the most > efficient system available. I am no zealot, and deep down I think > that most people /should not/ use it because, despite what lip > service they may pay, they do not actually want to learn something > new on their own -- said skill / passion / philosophical bent / > whatever being pretty much a requisite for my distro of choice. Unfortunately I did take your original statement as zealotry, and I reacted poorly. For that, I apologize. As I believe I've lamented about previously, I specifically find it troublesome when long-range decisions are advised about in what seems like a shortsighted manner. Unfortunately I guess I even find that offensive, even from a friend. I was sure you knew what you were talking about and that you weren't trying to steer Joe the wrong way -- I just think you're at the "5th state of knowledge" concerning Gentoo where "you've forgotten what you know, and you think that everybody else knows it." And when that happens, I think it's best to point it out. Know what I mean? ;-) -- Chris -- Chris Knadle [email protected] _______________________________________________ Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) MHVLS Auditorium Jun 2 - Android Jul 7 - Patent Absurdity - The Movie Aug 4 - Samba
